October 29, 2009

  • Point/Counterpoint on the Nature of Settling

    Guest post is by my favorite antagonist, Bokgwai, who really should start blogging again! He had way too much fun with this, please read.

     

    I originally made a comment in response to GreekPhysique's post on settling with the intention of starting a debate. Greek never responded. I have since considered writing a full out post on the ideas surrounding the concept of settling, but due to my perpetual busyness (and the impending conclusion of guest writer month), I have resolved to write a point-counterpoint version of a simulated debate between Greek and myself instead. 

     

    Original Text

     

    If you don't settle now, your future spouse won't have to settle later. Think about it. 

     

     

    Counterpoint

    The concept of "settling" is a product of neo-narcissism and record high Western expectations. Marriage is not about finding the best possible trophy partner, but rather, working out a healthy relationship with tremendous give and take. The whole idea of self-sacrifice for your partner is thrown out the window as soon as the idea of "settling" enters the equation. "Settling," or the avoidance thereof, is indicative of an attitude of entitlement.  If we even entertain these ideas, our relationships are bound to suffer.

     

    Point

    There are different kinds of settling. There is the "I need me a better woman than this" kind of attitude towards settling.  But there is an entirely different kind of settling from a different perspective.  Let's work with stereotypes, because they're so easy to manipulate.

     

    Imagine a girl who's been with the same deadbeat for years. He's content working part time and plays videogames whenever he's not at work.  He's fat, lazy, and doesn't help out with the chores. She, on the other hand, is working 40+ hours a week just to support his gaming habit while dreaming away of a better life.  Wouldn't you call this settling?  If she were your friend, wouldn't you tell her that she's settling for less than she deserves and needs to get out of that relationship?

     

    Imagine a guy who's with the same abusive girl since high school.  She runs up the credit card debt and cheats on him all week behind his back.  He keeps sticking with her because he's hoping that she'll come to appreciate his undying love for him.  Isn't this a person you'd want to grab by the ears and shake him out of his fantasy world? 

     

    In both cases, we're talking about people who just don't realize the baggage they are carrying in their significant others.  And more importantly, they don't realize how much they are worth.  They are most certainly settling beneath themselves and deserve better.

     

    Counterpoint

    If they're happy with what they have, then let them continue to be happy. Why try to make them dissatisfied with what they have?

     

    I learned an important lesson when I was trying to "educate" some of paler friends about ethnic foods.  They are perfectly content with eating steak and potatoes for the rest of their life.  It was my mission to expose them to chinese, korean, thai, mexican, and all other sorts of foods that were available.  Foods that I love.  Try as I might, I could not sway them, even after cooking my most well-received dishes.  What I realized in the end is this:  They like what they like.  Who am I to try to change them? Why should I make them be dissatisfied with their potatoes and want something more?

     

    Point

    This is true in some cases.  But in other cases, we're talking about people who just don't know better.  Or worse, someone who knows better, but is too afraid to hope for something more.  I'm talking about people who are in an abusive relationship but are afraid to leave because a) the relationship is all they have ever known and b) they don't believe they deserve anything better.  It is in cases like these that you need to speak into their lives and help them to realize that there is hope… and yes, they do deserve better.  And they can find it.

     

    Counterpoint

    As with all things, balance is key.  There is a time to settle and there is a time to leave things behind.  Yes, there is a need to escape abusive relationships, but there isn't always a need to escape unhappy relationships.  If you just leave a mandate that unhappy relationships should be discarded for greener pastures, you'll find that one out of every two marriages will fail.  Oh wait…

     

    There is a time when people need to just buckle down and say, "I'm not happy with where I am at right now, but I'm going to make it work.  I'm not going to quit.  I'm not going to just go out there and find a better partner.  I'm going to get help and try to work things out."  This is not just a good idea; it is a defining characteristic of maturity when a person is willing to accept temporary discomfort in exchange for long term growth and compromise.

     

    Point

    So that's your final answer?  There is a time for everything? How very Ecclesiastical of you. I hate when things end in a stalemate.

     

    Counterpoint

    Your mom ends in a stalemate.

     

    Point

    Thank you and good night!

Comments (13)

  • Bahaa, "paler friends".

    Eh, never settle b/c then you will always wonder what could have been. Thats just me though, some people can't be happy unless they are with someone, even if they are detestable.

  • this is hilarious!! go Alban! good points on both sides & I agree with the entitlement mentality - I see it in myself very much. although, while I think people's increasing selfishness is to blame for the high divorce rate, there is something awe-inspiring and almost holy between the love of a couple who are well-matched. i really do believe a lot of folks get married for the wrong reasons and divorce a few years later for the wrong reasons. i don't know if that would make me a proponent for "not settling", but I am just such a fan of couple who are well-suited to one another, I think the abhorrence of singleness is preferable to the hell of a couple who made the wrong decision in marrying one another.

  • Ah, you've given me something to chew over... in a hilarious context, by the way. (You should start posting regularly again...)

  • Well if you're both mature and you both love each other and you're both humble, that's all you need.  So get married before you hit 2nd puberty!  That's about all the settling necessary.

    Martha

  • I don't know why it bothers me, but using 'entitled' makes me irritable.  Continuing to stay in a unhealthy relationship because you don't know better doesn't make it better.  Or waiting for the right person to come along because you don't want to end up in a crap relationship that you have to work really really hard to make work (more so than in a normal relationship that you have to work at).  I don't think it's wrong to not want to settle.  I don't see it as being entitled, more like being cautious.  I believe firmly in for better or for worse... I don't want to make that harder than it needs to be because I was quick to jump into a relationship.  I enjoyed reading both sides of the debate.  It gets me thinking.

  • I love the fact that Your Mom can bring to an end almost any argument ever, if properly applied.

  • You guys should debate more, John and Alban.

  • wow, you are so smart. i bet you get all the chicks

  • Btw, you know, before I got exposed to Xanga, I had never encountered the term and the concept of "settling". I think most Asians don't really know or think about it, and we just stick with what we have. In this issue, I think Alban wins.

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