March 30, 2008

  • Could Xanga have Retained its Popularity?

    I read this fascinating Washington Post article as to how social networking web-sites rise and fall over time. Included was some information about Xanga. The typical Xanga user used to spend 100 minutes a month on the site in 2002, a number that has since fallen to about 1/10th of that. The article made me think; since so many sites rise and fall, was there anything Xanga could have done to remain popular? The article suggests that new and innovative features encourage people to join new sites. What else could Xanga have done a few years ago? Here are some ideas. By the way, I want to make it clear that I think the site idea was visionary, and that John and the team deserve a lot of credit. I'm posting this because I really like the site, not because I want to snipe at Xanga leadership or something.

    1. Xanga failed to market the popular bloggers it was creating and celebrities that were using the site. When I first got on Xanga, I started checking out the Featured page. There were some very talented grown-ups on there; TheBigShowatUD, a talented and witty man in law school; Model4Christ, which was the very honest blog for Shannon Stewart, runner-up on America's Next Top Model; Emprise34, who is singer David Crowder; and YellowSparkler13, who played for Michael W. Smith and wrote an excellent blog for women. But I don't think many people on Xanga ever knew about them, and that's a shame. Compare this to Myspace, which created dubious celebrities like Tila and Dane (I don't even want to type their last names, heh). I don't think that Xanga should favor certain people all the time, but I do think that Xanga staff should work hard to find such talented people and make sure they are featured at least once. Why not update featured once every 8 hours or 4 hours, instead of what seems to be the current once-a-day schedule?

    2. Xanga couldn't make up its mind if it was a social networking site or a blogging site. Xanga is the best site out there to combine blogging and social networking, ok? But the problem is, it's not seen as a great blog site; in fact, some of my blogging friends elsewhere refuse to consider Xanga as a real blog site. Tumblr, Blogger, and WordPress are the blog sites that people know...and yet I use Blogger and vastly prefer Xanga. On the other hand, it can be hard to find similarly-minded people on Xanga, because (1) no Metro Search (perhaps it could be set up for over 18, if we don't want to make teens searchable?) and (2) people don't use blog-rings as much. I've seen way too many decent Xanga blogs die because the poor folk never realized how to get other people to read them (comment on other people's sites, of course). Anyway, I wish Xanga had gone in one direction or the other; social networking or blogging. Which brings me to

    3. Xanga had  no easily definable mission. Myspace is a place for friends, and Facebook is where you meet your classmates or workmates...but what is Xanga's mission? Could you describe what the site does in a sentence, or in a motto? I like the undefinability of Xanga, but I think it scares some people off, because they don't know what they are doing.

    4. Xanga stayed with propreitary content too long. Xanga began by making money off their membership, which had users pay for the rights to use photos and videos. However, when the marketing model switched and Xanga could make money from google text ads, it seemed to take Xanga a little too long to open up the photo/video floodgates. But when they did, Xanga had some of the easiest to use photo/video storage options on the 'Net. I still think people under-rate this feature on Xanga--very few sites make it so easy to have photo, video, pulse, and blog on the same site. But also, I've usually had problems adding photo and video from other sites into my Xanga--why isn't it easier to embed Youtube videos or other content? Tumblr has made that possible, and they are reaping the benefits. Couldn't Xanga make it easier too? Also, I'm upset at how difficult it is to search through my archive, link to my Xanga content, and otherwise make my content portable. This still is a problem to this day.

    5. Xanga couldn't make up its mind if it were high-end or low-end. On the one hand, Xanga is filled with smart people who blog well and have smart things to say. So it seems like it should promote itself as a high-end site with standards, and feature those talented people (see 1). But on the other hand, from about 2004 to 2006, the Xanga featured blog sometimes was very low-end. There were several times when porn (yes, porn) was available directly from the Xanga home page of xanga.com via someone's featured post in the sidebar. You know how disturbing that is when one is at work? Also, there were a lot of role-playing and ana sites featured. I'm not arguing censorship; people have a right to post what they want. My argument is about promotion--by having those sites featured so prominently, Xanga made itself look sleazy, when it wasn't. This scared off some parents--I had to argue with one of the deacons of my church that I wasn't a sinner for having a Xanga and Myspace. And it was a long argument as well! Now, Xanga has done a good job cleaning up the site. Mature content is mostly hidden, although occasionally something minor will slip through here or there. But I definitely think this hurt Xanga back in the day.

    6. Xanga had no central gathering places for users to meet. If you were a new user on Xanga, where would you go? There was no newbie forum board or obvious directions as to what a new Xangan should do. Now we have featured questions and a lot more guidance, but that wasn't the case a few years ago. So when your friends got bored of the site, you were left with no one.

    7. Xanga failed to market its exceptionally high proportion of female users and well-educated users. Here on Xanga, I would estimate that 80% of my readers and commenters are female. That's a great ratio, especially considering I did not meet many of them before I got on this site. Can't Xanga find a way to use this for marketing? Maybe they can have more female-oriented features, or more female writers. But on the other hand, when I look at featured, too often I see male Xangans. Perhaps the ladies aren't as good at relentless self-promotion (cough, cough) as their male counterparts, but I'd like to see more of them featured.

    8. Xanga never hired any of its own bloggers to write content to bring people in. I don't know how much cash Xanga still has on hand. But why not hire some college kids, pay them a stipend of $5,000 for the school year, and have them write "Xanga Sports" or "Xanga Fashion" entries 5 days a week? It's not hard, and it would create a natural gathering place for Xanga readers. AOL Teens did something similar to that, but their sites were poorly designed to allow for communication; but that's not a problem for Xanga! Similarly, blogs could be started for Xanga Fashion, Xanga Tech, etc. This could help bump up web traffic and give people something to talk about. Gawker.com is one example of a network of blogs that has done this. Or maybe Xanga can make some people partners the way Youtube has--give them a share of ad money coming from their page.

    9. Xanga failed to make a push for the 20- and 30-something crowd. The post-college presence was never that strong around here--and I subscribed to several of those groups, so I should know. I keep thinking that if only Xanga could have hooked that audience, they could have weathered the departure of some of their younger members. Xanga was a good fit for that crowd--the subscription service is natural, it's easy to get started writing if you've been on the Web before, and you can protect some posts while making others public. Also, those people have money, so they would have paid for more Lifetime memberships.

    10. I'm out of good reasons. Why don't you tell me the 10th reason? I think a major factor in Xanga's future is, can they come up with something completely new? Xanga's new features lately have been better than most competitors, but not truly original. If Xanga can come up with something original, or rebrand itself, I think it can still get some traffic back.

    For the record, here are two ways in which Xanga did not fail in my opinion

    1. Xanga did not get dominated by the Asian or teenager demographic. Some people will try to tell you that the Xanga name was too foreign-sounding, or that Xanga had too many Asians and/or teenagers. That's ridiculous, because unlike Myspace, you aren't bombarded with comments and friend requests from strangers. And this was never a problem when the site was more popular and plenty of other races/ages were using it. Sorry, that's no excuse, and some who use it teeter on the edge of bigotry in doing so.

    2. Xanga did not fail by restricting content and placing some parental controls on material. I know that some of the R-rated bloggers want to go back to the old days, where their racy content could be featured. But trust me, the site didn't lose so much traffic just because your f-bombs or homemade smut are not on featured anymore. It's not as if Myspace or Facebook allows much of that content, either, so your reasoning is not logical. Start your own web-site already, if you feel that passionate about your freedom of expression, and maybe charge readers or make money off ads. And send me 50% of the proceeds already for giving you the idea, ha.

Comments (180)

  • Curious: Have you ever discussed all of these ideas with xanga admin? They'd probably welcome the input. A lot of this was stuff I hadn't thought before, except for #5. I really like Xanga and I would like to see it do very well. Call me an optimist I do think that it still is possible for Xanga to become extremely popular. It's a very good site and I haven't yet found the site that tops it.

  • I never knew much about Xanga, but I've been using it for a while.

    Also, I don't want the high female to male ratio to be promoted because then people might think I'm a girly man if they find out I have a Xanga.... two actually.

  • Most of the people that are saying that xanga should give a link like the old featured content are not saying xanga should change its front page. The front page should stay as it is. I do think xanga needs a strong link for unedited content.

    I agree with number 6.

  • I definitely agree with number 6. I know that I didn't know what to do at first either. haha- it was an interesting couple of hours trying to figure things out!

  • Hmm... they should make you an admin.  good stuff :)

  • You really did some research with this one...a lot of these things I had never considered, but I agree with most of them. I definitely remember Xanga being popular among my high school crowd, but then we all went to college and got facebook and it kind of died off. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who still uses it, but I would love to see it be more popular again. I hope the admins take the time to read this.

  • Well said. I have tried to use both Blogger and WordPress and find them complicated and too technichal. I have often been surprised that xanga isn't more popular given it's ease-of-use, it's high-end content and the general quality of writing. ~ L

  • Nice.

    Still, when I mention I have a Xanga, all the people I know say "but that's for Asians, and you hate Asians!" which is odd.

    But they're all on LiveJournal, so they have no souls anyway.

  • So.... I know people that have left for blogger or wordpress, and the feeling I get is that it is just a sleeker, more professional look. Do you agree?

  • Yeah, I'd be one of the R-rated bloggers who feels we should go back to the old way.  I am not impressed at all with the year old changes to FC and the censorship on the front page.

  • you have a point. ten of them, in fact. good call. i find that with #9, there are way less teenage users now, and way more 20's, 30's and above. that's actually why i stay here.

  • excellent. some of your points are things I have thought, but never articulated. I think Xanga has the ability to be popular again and all of your suggestions could definitely aid in that, but they have been stereotyped and that may be nigh impossible for them to break out of. I have been blogging on Xanga since '01 and I've tried other blogs and never liked them. although I love xanga, I agree with #4 and would like to see them improve.

    you should definitely send this to xanga.

  • Xanga was banned from my high school in 2006 because of the sleazy content. Myspace, however, was still allowed... -.-

    Every time I tell people I have a Xanga, they either say: "I thought it was for Asians", "wow, that site is old", or, "I don't have time to write so I quit using mine." So they don't know who uses it, they don't know about all the newer features (I love the photo option), or they have no incentive to blog. Clearly Xanga needs better self-promotion.

    If Xanga would concentrate on blogging/pictures/basicstuff they'd be better; no one really cares about social networking on here- that's why I have a Facebook to ignore!

    @papua2001mk - 

    Agreed. WordPress isn't as user friendly and it's harder to read other people's blogs on those, imo.

  • i think that it could i have gotten a couple people to join in facted i got my girlfriend to join xanga

  • those are good thoughts. you should talk to the admin.

    xo

  • I really like David Crowder.

    Anyway...Great points. I agree that Xanga is the best blogging community, Is hard to socialize on BloggerBlogspot and Facebook is not for blogging ,no one reads it.
    I get asked all the time if I have to post from the nursing home because I am 45!

  • Xanga was too slow in adapting all the new features being promoted on myspace/facebook etc.

    and you're right about xanga not knowing what it wants to be

  • Nice post.  I am knid of new around here, but i do agree with much of what you had to say.  Perhaps the Xanga team will read your post and make some changes around here. ..:: dante

  • Hmm, I somehow like that Xanga is not the 1st address to be at for all those teens that are on Myspace now..

  • This is the smartest post I have read in a VERY long time.

  • Very nice argument.  I do think that many of the reasons that Xanga hasn't maintained its market share is definately numero fiveo.  If there is no clear mission, then it is impossible to anticipate further changes, features, and goals.  Xanga needs to sit down and decide what they want to be, and where they want to go; despite what is currently happening.  Right now, they're too busy reacting to the market to be proactive in creating a truly original and memorable product.

    and I love Xanga.

  • Good show!  I'd say something about how Multiply has better video and picture sharing tools but they have less than a million users.  I guess better doesn't always equate with popular.

  • Hear, hear.

    And all that, "you should tell xanga about this"...why can't they find it themselves? Isn't that their job? I get the feeling some of the xanga team spends a lot of time on the same sites day after day. Personally, I'd like to see more new featured content. I also wrote a post recently about my ideas on xanga, but I figure the xanga-that-be can come visit if they want to know my ideas...

  • @porcupinesol - 

    I agree. It's something of a relief that the teenie crowd migrated to other sites. Perhaps Xanga should be promoted as more of a mature-oriented site? However, the average teen has several thousand dollars of expendable income per year; I'm no expert so I don't know if they would pay for Premium. Personally, I'm abusing the Welcome Wagon feature to slowly *earn* Premium with credits . . .

  • I've been using xanga for four years so I remember back when xanga was primarily a site for writers. I think making social networking an emphasis was a mistake. I have rarely seen anyone with wit or intelligence on Featured Content. It should be something judged and based on actual writing standards, not how successful you are at spam bombing. Not that I am a great writer or anything but I think a little more legitimacy would have helped. And yeah Blogger, Livejournal . . .all those blogging sites have a much more obtuse updating engine etc, it's sad that this site isn't more popular.

    I think archiving should not be a premium service.

  • I've only been on xanga a year, so some of this was news to me.... if you could share this with the xangan-powers-that-be, that would be cool.

  • This is great, informative and easy to read. I truly hope the xanga team reads this.

  • I can't help but agree with almost everything I see here. I've seen some featured blogs that were "i wuz at me bros house cuz..." Blech!!!!

    A pox on you and your house for writing such drivel. Learn to spell to freaking retard. And this is featured???

    That alone was nearly enough to put me off Xanga complete. I did quit blogging her for a long long time.

  • Really nice. And it's something great for the community too. I would like to think of Xanga as a loving community. I know that sounds mushy but Xangans are the ones who helped me through my darkest moments (which is very recent)....

  • I used to tell people I have a Xanga site and they say, "What?" I actually like the anonymity of it. Like my own little place. And thank God my students or coworkers haven't found me. And I want to keep it that way.

  • You have some very great ideas and points here!  I like a lot of it and hope Xanga will consider adding some of these features in soon!

  • I'll admit, I have Myspace to keep in touch with the ppl I KNOW.  and I like Xanga because I'm not networking with ppl who KNOW me.  This way anything I write is simply looked at for the value of what's written.  As with almost everyone, your friends and family are one of the last ppl who will listen to you on politics or religion (my fave subjects).  And if I blogged my personal rants to my friends & family they'd all know my business (not to mention the ppl who work for me!)

    I don't know anyone with a Xanga, except other Xangians.  Works out well for me in it's own way.  But I have found its more difficult to make connections with ppl here.

  • I think giving us a chunk of the change via allowing us a few adsense ads to make our own money would be good too. At least for those of us who can actually write. Not sure if we have trackback like other blogs, but I think that kind of thing gives it more "legitimacy" in the eyes of other bloggers.
    Maybe what would help is making the featured page a sort of collective magazine. It kind of is now, but with what you were talking about "Xanga sports" and whatnot as featured articles as well. If the front page had a bit more editorial feel in terms of it's layout (sometimes it feels like everything is just thrown there) I think it would give us something over wordpress and blogger bigtime. They could offer free premium or even pay for a guest article on the topic. There's already some sites doing it though I don't really like them much.

  • Great post, I think i could agree with most of those.. but being a blogger here on Xanga for over 7 years, I have seen xanga almost die out completely, but over the last year build up big again and some really good bloggers back on here again.

  • I've been with Xanga for years and it is an amazing site.  Despite all the uproar about the social networking versus the blogging, I still believe the heart and soul of Xanga will always be the written word.  Yes, I have a MySpace page, but I use it primarily as a digital scrapbook.  It contains my favorite videos I've gathered from YouTube and a playlist I created on playlist.com.  I rarely use the blog.  I have thought about posting my fanfic there, but Xanga's newest posting features are making me reconsider.  I recently created a second Xanga blog to house my novel-in-progress and other writing projects, and I am in love with it.

    Funny, I have seen a plethora of blogs about Xanga itself lately...the controversies over the new features, etc etc...it's intriguing to see so many different opinions on the same subject.  I personally think Xanga HAS retained its popularity over the years, at least to some extent.  If its popularity ever waned to the point where it was in danger of being shut down, I would be the first to launch the biggest save campaign ever.

    Complain about the newfangled bells and whistles all you want.  As long as Xanga exists, all is right with my world.

  • Don't forget about the waves of trend whores who can't keep a single username for 2 weeks, let alone stay on a single site for more than a month before it becomes "yesterday's blog."

    I've seen my own subscribers add and bail on a natural ebb and flow.

    I'll blog regardless of how many people read mine on a daily basis... because the true fans will always come back.

  • while xanga's ambiguity may drive some people off, I personally love how (considerably) well it combines the best of both worlds :  serious content and social networking. 

     the two flow together fairly easily here, and while there are certainly wrinkles to work out and you can at times feel xanga struggling for a sense of identity, I stick by it because no other site is quite as versatile.

  •   I joined up when I wanted to leave a comment on a friend's blog.  I had no idea what to do and there was no information on featuring or stars etc.  I found my way around on the learning curve and have made great connections with other people.  Great Post!  Guess we'll see you on the featured page tomorrow? Or are you already there.  I have been pretty disappointed in many of the "featured blogs" so I don't go there very often.  The blogring thing is strange cause you can be among 1,000's  of members and the only one posting to the ring.  Oh yeah..and when you back track to the blogrings orgin, the guy who started it hasn't posted since 2004.  Oh well. Back to my bolggin' along, singin my song, lalalala.

  • Stumbling across this post is quite ironic, given just a couple of hours ago I'd ended up looking out of interest at the Alexa stats for this site (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/xanga.com); if you flick the graph to max you can see its steady rise and fall over the years across various keys

    I could be wrong, given I'm not the most experienced Xanga user, but my Number 10 would be; That it didn't work hard enough to bring back users as they left the site.

    In my instance, I originally set up this account nearly a year ago, made a few entries, thought it was quite cool, but soon lost interest as I came across other social networks, such as facebook. Now Xanga must have an email list of millions built up over time whom it could market too, and send featured posts, and general news etc. But all I ever received was a notification that the one person I had subscirbed too had made an entry; which whilst as a result I'd occassionally then go too check on, didn't stimulate enough interest to keep me on the site. Whereas with facebook I'm getting an email every other hour saying this or that has happened. The only reason I recently returned here was of my own accord, otherwise I would have remained one of the other countless forgotten former users.  

    I enjoyed reading this, thankyou.

    CARAX.

  • You've obviously put a lot of thought into this. I do wonder, however, if it is the nature of sites such as Xanga, LJ, MySpace and such to rise to popularity and then lose the attention of folks to another site.
    In other words, maybe this is just what happens over time. The bubble bursts to be replaced by another...

  • @silence_of_words - 

    I'm happy they left. Not that I don't like teenagers who only post photoshopped pictures of themselves and crappy lyrics... :cough:

  • I forgot to mention; the Wikipedia timeline of Xanga is also quite interesting:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanga

    CARAX.

  • it seems you got a lot of feedback on this one! i don't have the time to go through all your comments, but i hope someone was able to give you some instruction on how to embed youtube videos into your xanga. it's actually very easy!
    if are still are unsure: youtube has this wonderful feature where you can copy the html of the video. then, go to your xanga, click "edit html" when you go to write a new weblog, paste, and voila. i'm sure this is actually the case for many html objects, but i haven't experimented with those as much. good luck, and i know for a fact that the xanga team has paid attention to your entry.

  • I definitely agree with all of your points. I think there is a lot that the Xanga admins could do to make Xanga better. Unfortunately, these changes can only be implemented so quickly. I also don't think that it's too late for Xanga to reach its former popularity. Blogs are still big news and continue to be an upward trend in internet-land.

    I too would love to see more featured content. I've found a lot of the sites that I read through the featured content.

  • Why do so many people say that Xanga isn't popular? It has 40,000,000 registered users. Okay, that's not the 110,000,000 users of MySpace, but it's good stuff. I'm not here to argue or complain, I'm just saying I don't understand the general insistence that Xanga is the boonies.

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - I'm not thoroughly convinced you're Dan. That's a pretty long sentence for Dan. Also, I don't think the "clubbing seals" thing is his style.

  • I left xanga for a long time, mostly because if i used myspace I got a bunch of cool features that xanga would make me pay for. Im back now, simply because its a good place to write in wasy that other sites arent.

  • The xanga admins totally need to place this on Featured. These are some great ideas worth incorporating.

  • @fullmetalbunny - 

    The clubbing seals post was definitely my style. What is with people thinking my posts and comments are not me?

  • I had a lot of friends that were on xanga. But after the myspace and facebook boom they just stopped adding entries. To this day I still refuse to get on myspace or facebook. Not sure why. I'm content with xanga even though I can't update as often as I'd like. Great entry!

  • I used to use Xanga because it was a way to stay connected with my friends; it seemed everyone I knew had a blog here. Then everyone left because they had been using it primarily for social networking, and MySpace and Facebook are more aimed at that, making their Xanga accounts seem superfluous afterthoughts once thse had become popular. It wasn't fun any more after they left because there wasn't any good set way to meet new people.
    Now the content on the homepage (which I never bothered to look at before) serves as one way to bring people together, but I think more could be done. Editorial content seems like a good idea, but I think the one thing that would most encourage socializing more would be a reformation of blogrings. Blogrings have always seemed like they have potential to bring people with common interests together, but that potential is unfulfilled because they serve merely as loose associations and don't encourage interaction with fellow members. My suggestion for that is adding some sort of forum or discussion board to blogrings, much like Facebook groups.
    I have recently begun using Xanga in earnest again, and I really like all the new features the site design is very easy to use and offers a lot of possibilities. I'd like to see it gain popularity.

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - At least I know I'm not the only one. Let's just say one can't act THIS way 99% of the time and then THAT way 1% of the time and not expect people to be surprised.

    Then again, various people believe I'm a guy until they find out otherwise, so who knows.

    Anyway, just so long as you got my message. I don't make it a hobby to apologize for the actions of others, but this time it seemed necessary.

  • I like that Xanga focuses on content rather than networking while still accomplishing both, but now that the features for content are very strong, I'd like to see the networking possibilities grow.

  • I don't doubt that John will hear about this.

    Excellent post. I've seen xanga fall from a site for real writers, to sleaze, to bringing itself back up to respectability. I've seen my intelligent readers be replaced by groups of the unwatned variety, until not even they would come onto xanga. The xanga team has been doing plenty of good work in the past couple of years. John and the gang, if you're reading, many thanks.

    I love the reaction I get from my friends when I tell them I still xanga

  • This is just the best article that I have seen on the pros and cons of Xanga since it began going through all these upgrades. I am glad that you didn't take the opportunity to bash the site as so many others have recently. For the record, I'm a thirty-something female Xangan, and I prefer blogging at Xanga more than any other "social networking site" around and I've been here since 2001. lol

  • I'm not really that big on xanga but I posted two out of maybe like a year?  The latest post was featured and I got about 360 comments?  The thing is I'd say that about 320 of them were Asian.  Is that a bad thing?  I just wonder if what you say is true that Xanga isn't overrun with asians. 

  • You make a lot of good points here. I especially like the idea of them hiring some people to write xanga-related blogs, particularly because I'd love that job. ;) haha. Seriously, I hope you get noticed by some of the staff and that they take some of your ideas. It's not too late for them to make themselves more popular now.

  • it has all been said, let me just clap.

  • Thanks for all the info.  Number 6 is an important one, alot of people give up and quit cause they don't know what to do.

  • RYC - thanks :)

    As for xanga - I think it's all about personal preference. I tried blogger, lj, myspace, etc. and somehow I always came back to xanga. But then again, I'm one of those people that goes out looking for things, not waiting for marketing to hit me over the head. :) And it is less for me about community than a simple place to write. But I commend your list - very well thought out and accurate I would agree. I still don't use the new xanga home page thing. I like the old one.

  • All right! Now that the flow has slowed down, time to reply to comments. Thanks for stopping by; you're free to come back again if you wish.

    @squeakysoul - No, I haven't talked to Xanga admin. that much. I suspect that they've already talked to consultants who know more than I do, so I feel rather presumptuous in sending this to them. I'm sure they'll find it, though.

    @in_the_everyday - haha, if you're a girly man, so am I, and so is everyone else who replies to this. And I have 3 Xangas, so I'm worse! Although the other two are just photo/video storage sites.

    @TheTheologiansCafe - Hmm...I go back and forth on that. On the one hand, I feel sorry for those people who just toss in a few swear words and thus can't get on FC. On the other hand, do you want to go back to the days where FC had its fair share of teens posting pictures of themselves having sex, and older guys trying to set up sites to meet teens? Oh, there's still some of that on Xanga now, I'm sure...but I don't like the idea of Xanga condoning or promoting that content in any way. And also, let's not kid ourselves and pretend that there's this huge community of artists being unfairly censored here; most of the EX writers are not that good.

    @lawmixitup - See, I knew it wasn't just a few people!

    @dances_in_chucks - Thanks for stopping by .

    @meggiemay0307 - Yeah, Xanga does a poor job of surviving the transition to college. But I think many sites have the same problem; the Internet community is not a good fit for the college crowd. I wonder why?

    @empress8411 - And I agree, I too am surprised.

    @Drakonskyr - Glad you enjoyed it.

    @papua2001mk - You may have a point there. Design matters more than people think on-line, and if there's a perception that Xanga's design is childish, it would definitely matter. But I don't think there's that much difference.

    @ilsurvive - Oh no, one of "them"! haha. I liked the Top 50 list when there was some quality on it, but I felt it got overrun by what I'll call linguistic and visual exhibitionists. I would agree that sometimes the featured blogs of today can be a little dry, and too slow to update...but I don't want to go back, personally speaking. Thanks for sharing your opinion, anyway.

    @porcupinesol - I would like to see Xanga go after the 20's and 30's myself. I've had a really hard time finding new 20's and 30's readers, though, in the last year. Maybe I'm looking too much on blog-rings rather than elsewhere.

  • @GreekPhysique - Eeek!  I hope you aren't deeming me a visual or linguistic exhibitionist?  reading some of your other replies.....as far as I know, most people here  on xangaare 20's and 30's readers.  Aren't we? Hell, I even have many 40, 50 people commenting me.....  I don't tend to get the teens on my site....well, except for in dumb messages, asking me to chat and if I have a webcam, of course.  I ignore all of that, though....

  • @spokenfor - You're right about stereotypes being tough to overcome; you might be right thanks for the kind words.

    @adifferentkindofbeautiful - Well-said. Xanga isn't going to overtake Facebook for social networking, so why even try? Keep pushing the blog angle instead.

    @bellflower5507 - Best way to make Xanga fun is to get more of your own friends on here. I should try to get a friend to join, now that I think of it.

    @JessxMaxine - I think they'll find this post eventually (and I certainly respect their right to stay anonymous/not feature this, since I am correcting them in some ways), but good thought.

    @seedsower - The nursing home?! ouch! tsk tsk. It's good to have some older folk on Xanga too.

    @Yosho - I agree on the slow part; the saddest part is, their features are now a little better than Myspace/facebook, but it's too late to take advantage of that!

    @askdante - Glad to hear from some newer people too, welcome.

    @silence_of_words - Yeah, I have to admit, it may not be such a bad thing. But some of those teens were really good writers; I'm a sucker for angst, ha, what can I say?

    @eadie - Thank you!

    @Evowookiee - Strategy is vital to business; without it, the firm doesn't know how to react to challenges. That's what happened to Xanga, exactly. Well-said.

    @Botolf - Multiply? I'll have to look that site up, sounds interesting.

    @mama_jess - I agree completely...I get a little concerned sometimes that because Xanga is so large, the Xanga team is not catching some of the other perspectives on here. I've been on here for 4 years, but I've intentionally kept a low profile until very recently. I didn't send this out to the admins, because I didn't want it seem that I was bashing them, and then asking for attention! That's pretty creepy to do.

    @Legi0nnaire - Good point on the teens having $; but how many of them have credit cards or know how to navigate e-commerce? I don't think that many yet.

    @shadowsofthought - Yeah, spam bombing is starting to irritate me a little. But I don't mind the "little guy" trying to get attention at the start--it's the people who ALREADY get 20 comments a post who spam-bomb who upset me.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    Exactly, and if one more fucktard mass-messages me with the topic "Hey, got a new post up come by and show me some love . . ."

  • @beautifulwolf - I'm sure they'll find it--I peaked at my feedback log a little while ago, and I think some of them already read it.

    @o_Dirty_Blonde_o - thank you!

    @antisoccermom - Thanks, I especially appreciate the easy-to-read part. It's hard not to make such a post dry and boring; at least I succeeded in one person's eyes.

    @morrighu - But I love visiting my brother's house! ha, just kidding. True.

    @purpleritz20 - I too see Xanga as a place where I can find love and community. I would never be so foolish as to depend on it for a LOT of love and community, but I definitely have found that it helps with some of that.

    @LifeNeedsProtection - Ha, I second your thoughts about students and co-workers. I intentionally try to make my site so that I would never be embarrassed if it were found...but still, I like a little privacy.

    @Southernlass - Thanks, I hope Xanga considers some of these ideas too!

    @theresturantmanager - I like what you said in that yes, I can't get my friends and family to listen to me on some topics either so my Xanga allows me to find people who care, ha.

    @Allen_Oz - Almost like a Xanga Newspaper of the Day? I like that idea! It could really work. And if Xanga isn't careful, someone will pay their top bloggers to go elsewhere.

    @DamienT98 - I think part of the site is making a comeback, but other parts are still very dead. I'm not sure what to think yet at this point.

    @Celestial_Rose2002 - That's my concern, that Xanga may eventually have to shut down. I do find it interesting that everyone has simultaneously decided to start talking about Xanga's future. For me, it was because I've recently become a member of some other blogging families, and thus I'm more aware of Xanga's strengths and weaknesses.

    @nothingbeast - And that's what it's all about, the TRUE FANS. Traffic? Look, all these people won't be here tomorrow, or perhaps ever again, and that's just the way it is. But my faithful readers will be back, and that's all I care about. Besides, it's too hard to respond to 60 comments on a daily basis. All you extra people, go away! ha, just kidding.

    @journal_of_a_working_girl - I wish other people valued the site's versatility higher. But for whatever reason, it just doesn't seem to be working.

    @Jaynebug - I would rather not be featured for this, because it looks like I'm selling out Xanga just to look good. But thanks for the thought and praise

    @danteCARAX - Good #10! Xanga is almost too classy for its own good, and let a lot of readers leave too easily. And that Alexa graph is intriguing; wow, I had no idea the site was so hot for only one year (2005, looks like). Maybe that's just how the 'Net works.

    @eeyore17026 - See my comment above--yeah, maybe it's just too hard to stay on a site for a long time. Like right now I should be working, not replying to comments! ha.

  • @Rozblossom - Edit HTML, eh? Aha! Maybe that's all it was--it's been a while since I tried to do it and failed. I'll try it again sometime soon. And yes, good to hear the team has read some of this. I actually do have some background in business (although I'm no expert in web-site marketing), so this wasn't all armchair quarterbacking.

    @couldquitepossiblybeme - Featured Content is a great start for finding good sites, so the more we can find, the better. Well-said.

    @fullmetalbunny - That's true, but it bothers me how many of those 40M pages are now defunct. Go click on any blog-ring and look at the join dates--very few joins in this last year. No, Xanga isn't defunct, but it is getting quieter...

    @Safeinsidemyyou - Makes sense.

    @tenshii_rage - Thanks.

    @TheTheologiansCafe - You mean this isn't your twin, Evil Dan?! haha I'm so disappointed. Your being a Xanga celeb means people over-analyze everything you do. It's partly why I mostly have turned down chances to be a little more famous--I don't like the extra scrutiny. (That's not said in any way to disparage you; just pointing out why you get such feedback).

  • I agree w/ number 6 aswell. If i didnt have a friend who uses xanga all the time. i would of never been able to really utilize mine the way i do.

  • @Anita_Pita - Thank you!

    @grammarboy - I like that idea--more of a forumboard feel to blogrings. I too have found the blogrings the most logical way to meet people with similar interests/beliefs. It's been hard to find new readers now that fewer people use blogrings.

    @another_rebel_without_a_cause - I have found similar cycles on here--I think I have ONE non-family reader who has stayed with me all the way through. I've built my site readership back up by finding readers, but it's a lot of work...

    @harmony0stars - I don't want to bash the site, because I've enjoyed it so much. It has been free, and most of my Xanga experiences have been very positive. I actually wondered if I even should post this, because it seems that too many people have been overly attentive to the Xanga name lately. But it seems like I hit a nerve, somehow.

    @ldjucb3 - I went and looked on Wikipedia; there are certainly MANY Asian Xanga users. But it's not as if the site is built for Asians, and there were plenty of other races on here back in the day. I think that although there are many Asian readers on here, that doesn't have a negative effect on us non-Asians...although, of course, I could be wrong or have ignored the effects, who knows?

    @musicisoxygen - It is definitely not too late! I just hope Xanga hurries; the Myspace and Facebook backlash has started, and there is still time to become popular again...

    @trunthepaige - Aww, thanks, Paige!

    @penny1966 - thanks

    @aliveuntouchable - And, we end with my most experienced reader other than members of my family. EMILY! (hugs) It somehow feels so right that you would post on this topic.

  • All right, I will probably never reply to that many comments again, ha, but I was entranced by accomplishing the "feat" of replying to every single comment I had received so far today. Xanga to me is a community, and how can it work unless we have two-way conversations? But I've had better ideas...ouch, my eyes hurt! Good night.

  • @seedsower - 

    I agree too, g/f. I love Xanga. I don't want it for social networking. I want it for blogging. I have met some wonderful people here that are like-minded. I have a MySpace to ignore, as someone else said.

    The best way to meet new people is to read blogs you like and check out their friends and commenters to make new friends here.

  • @fullmetalbunny - 

    Wait a second, you are not a guy?

  • I DO love the Xanga is monitored by its own users. that's hot

    but what about Fred Durst? his Xanga is back!

  • hey, just wanted to say, nice post, and I subscribed to you.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    i believe most of my readers are in the 20's-40's. stay out of blogrings.

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - ...Are you serious? No, I'm not a guy! This always gets me! How many men in the world- I'M BEGGING FOR AN ANSWER FROM ANYONE- are as weepy and whiny and cutesy-pie as me?! I don't see any guys around here acting like me! Always apologizing and second-guessing the things I say! Sincerely hoping I haven't said anything to make someone mad at me! How many men act like this?! HUH??? I did a whole post about not being a guy but I don't think it helped much.

    ...YES, I'm a girl, a Shojo Beat-reading, Hello Kitty-collecting, chocolate-loving, giggling, dieting, crushing-on-Adrien-Brody GIRL. And Adrien Brody is a MAN, in case nobody reading this has heard of him, so let's nobody go THERE.

    Geez.

  • i think i already said that, too. i don't know. i'm really tired.

  • @fullmetalbunny - 

    @porcupinesol - 

    ...I think Xangans have discovered a new way to amuse themselves. "Hey, let's act surprised about fullmetalbunny not being a guy! Ha ha!" If you go to theblackspiderman's "Xang-sta" post, you'll see a picture of me. Granted, I'm wearing a mask, due to my fear of stalkers (and isn't THAT a girl thing to worry about), but I think you can tell that I am not of the masculine persuasion. One day I may create a protected post and stick a picture of me on it, if nothing else to hush up the people in my immediate circle of friends.

  • @fullmetalbunny - 

    oh. well, with a name like fullmetal... bunny, i woulda thought, you know, that you were a big, hair MAN, babyyyyy!

  • @porcupinesol - 

    *hairy. (stupid fingers.)

  • I tried LiveJournal and couldn't search for anyone on there. I tried Blogger but didn't like the complicated process of posting. I like Xanga because I've found some really great people and have even gathered a few phone numbers from these friends. It's kind of a place for venting about the complications of life that we all can't stand. Life gets harder, but Xanga gets easier. I've noticed that people aren't online as much but again, that's because life gets harder. People are demanding more from others and its almost ridiculous. Xanga... it seems people are more real behind the screen, which is fine... thats what Xanga is for. LiveJournal... seems to attract the younger crowd... Xanga seems to attract the thinkers and possibly even the lonely. It's a good website.

  • excellent and organized content. i enjoyed your analysis and theories on the "state of the xanga".

    thanks- recos and stars forever!

  • I knew right away fullmetalbunny was a girl! Crazy people.

    Anyway, I don't really understand the technical or advertising aspects of internet stuff so much, but for my lousy two cents worth: I like Xanga waaay better than Myspace because, frankly, Myspace pisses me off. It's difficult to use (for me, the technically challenged) and it's an advertising smörgåsbord of crap I don't care about. Plus, weird creepy people try to hit on me and it freaks me out. And I like Xanga better than facebook because it's more personal. People I barely even know friend me on facebook and then I'm given their life history as they comment on other people's sites and whatnot. I like being able to blog my silliness here, on Xanga, and only people who actually give a hoot will bother with it.

    Okay, that was a lame argument. Arguing is not my strong suit. And I have a question. If you deny someone as your friend on Xanga, do they get a notification that they've been denied? Or does it sort of just disappear? For the first time in Xangaland I've gotten a creepy friend request.

  • Hmm.  Very interesting.  Indeed, I never really cared about any of this much but I must say that your points are compelling.  I think one good way to possibly help new users until a better situation is achieved, would be to really push the welcome wagon concept for the more connected xangans and encourage them to help connect the newer ones with the rest of Xanga's strong sense of community.  VaultESL visited my site when it was new and that led to my meeting Fullmetalbunny who, in turn (between the two of them) got my new Xanga off the ground in a couple weeks time.  I think we need a community effort if we want to see the changes you are talking about.  The Xanga team can't do it all... we have to be more pro-active in roping newer ones into the fold.

  • Great post! I really don't think I have much else to add--which is rare!

    There are some really great writers on Xanga, and yet they never get featured, let alone read! There is no central community, though that is both a positive and negative thing. I think of Xanga as more for blogging, as that really used to be it's only obvious purpose (as in before 'friends,'chat-boards, messaging and such.)

    I've tried a lot of sites, and really, Xanga is the best.

    Again, great post!

  • Great Post! I would really like to see Xanga thrive. I keep this blog site many because you can pay to have the smutty ads taken off so that you wouldn't be offended to visit or to have people visit your site.

    Most of the people that I used to subscribe to have gave up and went else anyway. And I think it is many because Xanga seems to have become stagnant.................... Which goes along with your number 1. Lately some new things have been added like the Featured Question with is great but it is not enough to bring in new blood or even to refurberate those that are already here. I think those that are here are here just because they are Loyal and don't want to just up and leave for the next big thing. Even if everyone else seems to be abandoning ship.

    Again I love Xanga, if you want you can keep your site pure and safe. But I have to say, there definitely isn't enough here to keep us interested.

  • truer words have never been written

  • I haven't been on xanga that long, but I really like that you posted this. It's given me major insight on xanga's history. I hope that you are able to get this post featured (give him stars and recommends people) because this is something the staff needs to see. They need to think about the things going on here.

  • Just a little thankyou for subscribing earlier, I take it was a result of my previous comment on this entry. It's muchly appretiated.

  • Very well thought out and expressed. Though xanga is not teen-dominated, it does seem to be going through it's own sort of teen angst and awkwardness. It has recently seemed to become sort of clumsy while trying out a few new things to draw attention to itself. I'm just quietly sitting by to see what xanga will become as it matures.

  • I disagree with one of your commenters that said it is better that the teenage crowd moved on to a different site (EX: myspace) because while most PROBABLY only made a xanga page because all of their friends did, the rest of us who stuck around after everyone left actually like the site for what it is, and are not simply like, "well everyone moved to myspace, time to give up and move to xanga"

    I am a teen, and I in fact love xanga.

    And you're right, if Xanga may have done some of those things earlier, and like the things they are doing now to attract users into coming back.
    They probably would have stayed popular, and not have to work so hard to gain popularity back.
    Because now, most ex users I know have repped it as boring and don't want to come back.

    Overall, nice blog. I think I may rec you as well.

  • I just clicked over to xanga and there you are:  Top of page two.  Ha Ha. Glad I got a word in before you hit the traffic.

  • I blogged on xanga more in the early years simply because I could access it at work. Now I can't so my time here has really decreased.

  • Lots of good ideas here. Sadly, so many of them are things for the past. Many of my friends IRL have left, but I have made new online ones on here.

  • Great post with great points.

    I think Xanga would make it if it stuck to promoting itself as a place for quality blogging rather than a social networking site like myspace or facebook. I'm getting sick of promotional bulletins cluttering my bulletin board and I think I speak for everyone when I say that I'm pretty much done with sheep throwing.

  • in response to number 3:

    I believe that xanga's beauty lies in its absence of a definable mission. People here are free to do as they please and there are not strict standards of movement within the walls of Xanga, other than publishing blogs.

    I've always found Xanga to be not necessarily a place to find people (although through my use on Xanga, i've met some rather incredible people and reforged broken bonds), but moreso a place to find yourself.

    A lot of people use xanga for, well, what it's created for, blogging. Through blogging, people are able to write whatever is on their mind, regardless of how mediocre or spectacular their published words are. When a person's stream of consciousness flows from their fingertips, a lot of them are not necessarily writing for an intended audience. A lot of Xangans, like myself, write for the sake of their own peace of mind. Personally, I write because it is one of the few things these days that helps to quell the storm of my mind and it is my means of remembering my tumultuous teenage years.

    In the midst of my quest for peace of mind, I've discovered who I am.

  • I agree. But back in the day, I didn't even know xanga had a featured section.

  • Whatever Xanga is or is not, I like it as it is, really.  The fact that it didn't soar in popularity like myspace is fine with me .. I don't want the teenieboppers and musical-marketers changing up the social, next-door-neighbor-type of feeling we have here.  There are other places to do those other things .. other blog sites.

    I'm one to enjoy not being popular .. being extremely popular in a business like Xanga would make it cow-tow to the needs or wants of all of the crazies out there who want Xanga to be something else than the thinking, intelligent, friendly enclave of friends that we have, here.

    I'm glad they didn't try to do all of those things, but kept it simple and focused on people and what they want to say to one another in a personal way ... and not focused on all the latest, coolest features that will lose their appeal over time.  One thing that is most important in everything we do ... and which blogsites have to come back to ... is people.  People are what is important .. other things are distractions from the relationships we make.

    Nice post.

    Thanks.

    John

  • I never really cared for credits (or any other features that is entailed in commenting other people other than this comment box and the Submit button) because I never believed in them, but after reading this post, I gotta say...

    This is my first time
    1. recommending a post,
    2. giving a vote to a post (a 5-star vote, that is), and
    3. actually giving a Mini to a post.

    And yeah, I'm not cheap when it comes to giving them.

    I'm gonna subscribe! Yay!

    (Seriously. You're giving us very wise and practical marketing ideas. I'm totally into you # 7, 8 & 9 suggestions. Very, very excellent and practical suggestions. Actually, I may even say they're sort of basic concepts of marketing. As most prominent businessmen say, "Your people are your most valuable resources". )

  • A very well rounded post, well put, and you made a lot of very good points. It would be fantastic to see Xanga get as big as Myspace in the near future, and the points you bring up could be key factors to such a thing.

    - phalsius

  • Wow these are all points that I've dabbled in over the years. Back in 2004 i joined the site moving from blogspot and love it. Problem was, after I was featured a few times [the community was much smaller then] It was nearly impossible to do so again. Xanga had this weird system going on where it filtered through blogs by eprops rather then comments they have fixed it since. But it was getting hard to shuffle through the mess of blogs and junk. I got busy and left the site. I would have tried logging on more if the community felt strong again. But alas the blogging world is fickle :P But I'm glad to say it's making a full force recovery GO XANGA!

    Good post!

  • Good post but let me say a few things. I'm not sure what direction the developers and marketing people wanted to take xanga but i've been a member of xanga since 2004 and what brought me here was the community. Sure its a blogging site + a social networking site but more of a social networking site, a place where you can meet new people and become attached.

    In many ways its different from facebook, myspace, live journal. Personally i hate myspace and i've used livejournal and vox and they don't come close to xanga. I use facebook as a tool to find long lost school mates and friends from my childhood times. And I also use blogger to stay in touch with my current friends. Now i could have used xanga but it was only recently they opened up to the outside world allowing people who didnt have accounts on the site to post comments and stuff like that.

    Why is xanga not as popular? Beats me. But one thing i can say once you try it, you dont want to leave. Even if you leave you'll be back like me :D

  • holder comment for later.

  • I have to agree with no 5. Some of my friends I invited here stopped using it because they say it's boring and they didn't know what to do. There was even a time that I thought of switching because I have no other friends anymore (they all switched to multiply etc) here with whom I can share updates and read blogs that have content. I felt isolated. But then it was a good decision that I didn't leave Xanga because I still like it and this is my first blog site. I don't want to switch to another one.

  • I really love Xanga, but it took me *three years* to get a wide following.  I have quite a number of loyal readers now, and I was even featured once, but three years?  I was throwing out blogging gold!

    I'm often really worried that Xanga will go under...I would consider another site, but none are quite this user-friendly.

    Xanga would really benefit from having college kids write blogs for a small stipend, but somehow, I don't really think that will ever happen...

  • I still love this place... and not because I was featured on the old Xanga!

  • I agree about number 5. I've never been interested in Myspace or Facebook because I'm not interested in social networking. I have those just because I need to keep in touch with certain people, but I almost never go there. I fell in love with Xanga because it was the best place to blog and visit other blogs. I felt it gave the best vehicle for self-expression through ease of posting, skin design, integration of multimedia, and I dug the blogrings. I loved that people would unload fears and secrets here that they never would share in person. You could really get to know people. I think Xanga panicked at Myspace and tried to fight it by miming it. Myspace is the all about the antithesis of deep expression. It is the most shallow form of expression, all "Hi! Look at me! Hey! Let's hook up! Yo, biotch I'm so gangsta!"

    I also agree about some of the search points. I never did do a successful user search on Xanga. How the fuck do you search for a user? And searching blogrings was always a chore. And blogs should be automatically dropped from blogrings after a month or so of inactivity. I hated surfing blogrings and constantly hitting a blog that's been dead for a year.

  • I like your post, it's informrative, enlightning, and observative VERY good. Everyone will never agree on everything but I think your points are GOOD.

    I can't compare to other communities but I came back to Xanga because I loved the new features and the interface and then I very quickly fell in love with the spirit of Xanga, the diversity of users and interesting blogs.

  • You are too western-centric in your evaluation.  Xanga is now overwhelmingly the most popular social network site in Hong Kong.  And, if mainland China were to open its cybergates, I'd bet that Xanga would take hold of the mainland and become the most popular social network in the entire world.  So Xanga is poised for the greatest popularity imaginable.  But politics is getting in the way.

    And, by the way, Xanga is the name of an ancient Chinese tribe.

    Fuck seeking out celebrities and featuring them  That's an elitist sham.  Let them find there own way here just like the rest of us.  And #8, pushed, paid, amd promoted propaganda, is just hype - any way you spin it.

  • xanga is a site for average non-technical people to blog and socialize at. it doesn't take a technogeek to set up. it's fairly easy to use, and it's easy to build a network around you. unlike some places where i blog where you have to know all kinds of things just to begin and where the audience is fairly narrow. i've seen a man in the nursing home set down at the computer in the main living area and once he was walked through the initial set, begin blogging and finding readers for his stuff for the first time in his life.

    but is it a bad thing that xanga isn't as popular anymore? i'm not sure.

  • I really like #1.

    I hate seeing the same stuff on featured everyday.

    Great post!

  • @StarlahMantra - 

    How the freak do you get featured on the "Old Xanga"?

    Seriously, I have no idea.

  • "7. Xanga failed to market its exceptionally high proportion of female users and well-educated users. That's a great ratio, especially considering I did not meet many of them before I got on this site. Can't Xanga find a way to use this for marketing? Maybe they can have more female-oriented features, or more female writers."

    Marketing to Xanga females would only work if Xanga remembers that many of its female bloggers *are* among the highly educated users. Sadly, many companies seem to understand marketing to women as having to involve sparkling pink lettering and advice columns on losing weight and retaining a boyfriend. I agree that the site should capitalize on the truly interesting conversations that thrive very quietly on Xanga, especially in the fields of theology and politics; I can only hope that they will take your advice about reaching out to female bloggers and featuring more female content without resorting to the sort of ridiculously clichéd features like, say, Yahoo (http://shine.yahoo.com/).

  • AWesome . great observations!

  • good points.

    for the past 6 years or so, i've been using xanga pretty frequently.. and i do remember being featured once - simple because it was my birthday.  haha.  but, i do think the featured content has upgraded and i find a lot of good reads there.  i find celebrities here and there on the featured content.  it also gives exposure to those "underground" artists, filmmakers, musicians, etc.

  • I hope that the admins take notice of this. One of my friends got my onto xanga, and I in turn got a some of my other friends on. Now it seems that few of my acquaintance want to bother. We need a xanga revival asap!

  • Dang.  Very good analysis.  Xanga should hire you in a heartbeat.  I still love the site despite my flirtation with Myspace and Facebook.  I thing it is a great blogging site, but it could be strengthened in that area.  Especially making it clear other people can comment on a blog and NOT have to be a member in xanga. 

  • very well written.
    i think xanga is doing some things to get back its popularity
    like they sent emails regarding my OLD OLD OLD xanga tellign me that i should get back blogging with xanga.

    ermmm i just didnt pay by eprops to switch a user name. LOL

  • I'll have to check out that page. Yes, I know it means watermelon. My grandfather was from Thessaloniki, so his first language was Greek, and he thought in Greek. My mom once gave him a little keychain recorder so that he could remind himself of things. After he died, my mom found the recorder, and it had him saying "carpuzzi" so that he would remember to buy some watermelon. It's kinda weird, but I now love that word.

  • Cynara Jane recommended this post, and I see why. You should really send those "reasons" to the Xanga admin team and let them read them over. It would be great feedback for the site!

  • I do like your post.  I do think that Xanga should remain how it is, a blogging site.  MySpace and other places have become a little too social, in my humble opinion.  Every rapper/ rocker and their mother has a MySpace.  MySpace has become sort of like Geocities or 110mb.  Xanga has it's own niche as a blog site that features creative blogs, even if they are produced by ordinary people.  I like the lack of fanfare that Xanga has..its makes blogging here feel more...how should I say...mature...

    I don't know if that made sence to anyone...but it does in my universe...

  • Very interesting, and spot on I think. I've been here .... almost 7 and a half years, can you believe it. And yeah, lots of good stuff to say there.

    The question is, what do they DO about it now?

  • wish there was a way to favorit(ize) posts like YouTube has. Xanga does not have to spend much money, they just have to continue being innovative.

  • Well-written and well-supported reasoning behind all of your points. I completely agree with you.

  • I feel like my xanga is dying because no one comments....and I stopped wishing to make it to featured post. HAHA

  • I almost think that Xanga is still just as popular it was before. I don't think that a blogging site would see such a strong connection between popularity and time spent on the site, especially because blogging style have changed so much in recent years. People are viewing blogging as a more serious way of getting the word out, even if they aren't syndicated writers or professional bloggers. People spend much more time off the website developing their ideas before posting on the website officially. I almost think that people spend less time on their sites because we have become more efficient with the process of blogging and reading blogs. There are so many websites and programs that download RSS feeds that take away from the physical time spent on the website. People just need to post comments or give eProps, which doesn't take any time at all. I don't think it's a matter of popularity. It's simply a matter of how time efficient we have become.

    Great post, though! It was incredibly thought-provoking and well-thought out!

  • Awsome post! Why aren't YOU working for xanga??

  • I agree. I mean, during high school I was all over Xanga when I had any sort of spare time. Then college, and there were the few obscure posts. And now, I just hardly have time or any real cause for anything interesting to say. I wish they had marketed more to me... I definitely would have tried to make it more often! I like your ideas =)

    ~M.E.

  • I would throw my support to a xanga forum.

  • Very interesting post, I liked it.

  • ryc: thats interesting, which two would you say i am pulled in? id liek to hear your take on it
    ps wow u have a lot of comments

  • I must say when I read the 9 reasons for Xanga's *failed* popularity posted in a blog entitled "Editorial" on fullmetalbunny I got a little hacked and left my comments in regards to each item. But know that I read you in context in the original...it's cool. I really like your clarifications #1 and #2 that were for the record. Congrats on your Xanga-lebrity status!!

  • Wow, have any of your past entries made such a splash??  Me thinks you may change Xanga with yer words, lad.  Many props to you, fer ye hit the nail on the head.  :)

  • nice post! very astute list. long live xanga...

  • really valid and insightful points. i hope xanga overcomes its weaknesses and remains for years to come, because i've been here for five years and have grown quite attached.

  • You're my hero!

  • It is unfortunate that many people fail consider Xanga as a place to host their blog. It really is a good blogging site. I only recently joined (within the last month) and I did so because I couldn't find any other site that met my needs. Here's my take on it. Blogger is a farce, WordPress is too complicated, MySpace has navigation issues, Facebook keeps changing it's privacy policy, Vox is a pain to set up, and live.spaces.com doesn't allow scripts at all (though they are the fiercest competitor to Xanga that I've seen yet).

    Xanga on the other hand has a vast variety of themes (great for beginners), is easy to set up, has a help system that is better than most desktop applications' help systems and has these cool things called Xanga credits which you can use to buy premium features with.
    My only vice? No social bookmarking integration. Though I admit that many of these sites (particularly Digg) are geared toward teens, I've found that the site propeller.com (formerly netscape.com) actually allows you to have intellectual conversations about articles, much in the same way that I've seen at Xanga.

  • @ixcrisxi - 

    The exact reason that I wanted a blog in the first place. It's way to time consuming to maintain a website.

  • I would think that you would use the high female to male ratio to intice more males to join and create Xanga accounts in order to meet these internet/blog oriented females, rather than just catering to the females which are already there. At least, if raising the usage rate is you goal.

    Other than that, I completely agree with this list. Great ideas and thought input.

  • i remember when i was in high school about 5 years ago and everyone had a xanga. its a shame that most people shut it down. it has had lot of initial potential to mirror a lot of our very private moments. it did it in a way that wasn't loudly screaming emo and it did it in a way that was welcoming and friendly.

    xanga does seem a little bit dated compared to the app-blasted features of most other sites. but i really liked this blog. you thought about it, and i think you deserve some props. after all, wasn't it xanga that pioneered these ever-so-endearing eprops? *

  • Dear John,

    I do believe this is the first time I've ever been visiting on your blog. I clicked from the first starred page of Xanga while tracking one of my own entries.

    I must say I'm amazed at the depth and scope of your article. (I'll even dispense from calling it an entry and say article like on a "real blog".) I first read the Washington Post article, thinking that I would get the "news" from the source article, and possibly skim your post. However, as should happen with any form of journalism, the source material merely provided a background for the meat of your argument,which is presented so clear headedly and non judgemental, that I figure you must be a "real journalist" in disguise or else a smarmy self righteous wannabe.

    So, as I have been doing since I started reading blogs on Xanga when I joined, I took a look at your first page. Your "Am I on... testing...." entry, which echos a "testing is this thing on" I wrote on one of my own early blogs, was written a few weeks before I signed on to Xanga, establishing the eleventh and last time I created a blog for my main personal website, AllThingsMike.

    Unlike the teenagers or Asians, I am merely a blogger. My blog is the mouthpiece for my website, and contains the updates. What attracted me to Xanga, after being invited from a member of a writing group for poets I moderated on Yahoo, was the comments. I'd never seen anyplace where one could comment on an entry without sending an email or signing a guestbook. I used Napster in the old days, but I didn't realize that the app which allowed one to comment on a users mp3 as you downloaded was soon to revolutionize the internet.

    In time, my Xanga started taking all my time. I prominently feature my website's links on my blog page, but the vistors who came to comment usually only read the top post on my blog at any given time. There used to be a "review" feature. I wrote movie reviews, but nobody ever clicked on reviews. The point you make in #4 that people underuse the video feature (except for the porn, of course) is so true. I predicted on my own site in 1999 that "we'd all have our own television stations on the web". When YouTube came along, I joined immediately. Xanga finally, as you say, opened the video and photo floodgates, and the photo and video service is as good or better than on YouTube, or Webshots, where I keep my massive photo gallery. (I'll forego any more links) However, these links hardly seem to be utilized, much as the "review" section in the past.

    I like to call myself a "student of popular culture." I'm 54, so I'm not a young programmer, or a teen looking to communicate with peers. I'm just a "guy with a blog" who likes Xanga, and has developed a "following" of sorts, not too big, but manageable. Like you, I have seen fantastic bloggers come and go, and I do find that "quality content" and "quality bloggers" are sometimes not represented.

    As I like to tell my friends, (the real ones, not the ones in my Xanga profile) Xanga is the 132nd most popular site on the whole internet. That's pretty good. Maybe they were higher a few years ago. Maybe it's all the changing they've done that makes some people leave? In an attempt to make the site better and include more apps, perhaps they've alienated longtime bloggers.

    I know they'll have to make me try themes over my dead body. The thing I want most in an blogging/social networking site is that I can easily manipulate the main page so that it looks like my website, and doesn't scream some other corporate entity, or bombard a visitor with ads, when they are utilizing my site or my blog in a search.

    Xanga is not as good as blogger in this regard. But Xanga wants to be a social networking site, a video/photo sharing site, AND a blogging site. There's nothing wrong with that, and you've made an excellent case for the site, besides listing it's drawbacks and missteps.

    Huzzah. I'm honored to have read this. I spent perhaps a bit more time than I usually spend on someone's blog, but I like to spend time with quality, and this article rates. I have only used the "recommend" feature twice.

    With this article, I have used it a third.

    Michael F. Nyiri, poet, philosopher, fool

  • I know of people who hate Xanga and moved to Blogger. Stupid move, if you ask me. I dislike Blogger because it's not as interesting as Xanga. WordPress is a bit better, but Xanga is really the best. That's all I've gotta say.

  • I've been a member since 2002, but have only been blogging sporadically.
    If it weren't for the Xanga blogrings, I wouldn't of have read other people's blogs and found it interesting. There is still a community here. And with Xanga's subscription feature to email, it cured a many bored days. And I started to comment. People commented back. I dunno... the people that I've read from the beginning still blog. And I can't wait to see what they write next.

  • @subsider34 - 

    I totally agree with what you posted. People who are just starting out feel comfortable starting with Xanga, and a fair amount of people stick with Xanga because it's user-friendly and has all of the feature sin a basic account that make learning about blogging fun and easy. Yes, websites are a lot of work. I've maintained a few sites, and it's ridiculous how much work actually goes into a website if you do it all by yourself. Anyway, I should sleep.

  • This is a great site with excellent ideas. If Xanga seriously ask its users what they need the ideas it will grow and innovation will not stop. All ideas have there up's and downs. I have used all the sites you mention and am with xanga because it rank top on the criteria I have for a good blogging site. My biggest criticism is that whenever you want to publish something to a your blog it is easier to do it with other blog spaces than on Xanga. I have a livejournal account just because I can easily send contents I write to that blog rather than Xanga. Xanga also so not use the friends facility at all. I would like to be able to give access and communicate specific blog entries to specific friend lists. Facebook has a nice feature for this where you can set which friends groups can see what.

    Irrespective for now I am with Xanga. Xanga remains tops for my use of the web above all the other blog sites.

  • I dont know. I.. Im biased because Xanga was my first and favorite blog site - in the beginning it was more of a blog site than social networking site, to me. I still is my favorite site, and I love Xanga how it is, I dont want it to change much more, ebcause honestly that could ruin things how great they are right now.

    ~Misa

  • Good thoughts, good post.

    I get frustrated with the press for generally ignoring Xanga, most especially with PC World and PC Magazine. They constantly review blogging sites and always promote Blogger, while also giving props to WordPress and TypePad. Gah! If I've ever seen Xanga mentioned, it was only once, and they completely dismissed it as a site for teenagers and not for "serious" blogging. At least they've blown MySpace off too....

  • Wow Greek!  So many comments. 

    I would have to agree with the featured blog stuff...I would check them out from time to time and one of them, I swear, was an anorexic girl counting her calories for the day.  She would get like 100 comments, but there was never anything of substance. 

    I thought there was wonderful content that was never highlighted or profiled by the Xanga admin.  Instead I would see junk posted and eventually lost interest.

    I agree with you that usability of xanga is perhaps one of the best things about xanga compared to other sites.  This is something that I really like abou xanga. 

    As for me and my choice to slowly fade away from xanga, I would say it's because I felt like it was a blog network and then they started trying to compete with myspace and facebook (neither of which are used mostly for the purposes of online journaling).  There was all this extra stuff on xanga that I didn't really want...I signed on one day and now I have "friend" and subscriptions...why do I need both?  I just like to write and I like to read quality posts from otherwise amateur writers. 

    I liked other blog hosts because the site presented itself in a cleaner, more mature manner (I don't know how else to say it...much of the layout of xanga and my home administration page seems to target a teenage generation).  I would also say they are dry in comparison to xanga functionality and what not, but they are cleaner and more sophisticated looking.  I don't know if that makes sense, and it's a silly reason, but i got tired of feeling like I was too old to use this site anymore...

    I just want a place to write and a place to read people who I think post quality articles/thoughts/blogs.

    Excellent thoughts greek...They should HIRE YOU!!!

  • By the way???  IS THIS A FEATURED POST?  because it SHOULD BE...and XANGA administrators should be reading it to see what it's users have to say. 

  • After reading your other posts, I've realized that this was most definately not a flash in the pan as far as quality is concerned. Definately subscription material.

  • Ok, I'm diving in to another round of replying to comments. Sorry I can't get to every one; I tried to focus on the ones that asked questions or were particularly long.

    @trebleclef402 - The problem always with bad characters is they ruin it for everyone else. To me, Xanga is one of the better places on the Internet (NOT overall! just the Internet!) for interested singles to meet each other. After all, one can easily read someone else's blogs, which will tell you a LOT about the person. But unfortunately, people with no manners force many Xangans to privatize their blogs, or hide pictures, or otherwise avoid people. It's a little sad, quite honestly.

    @FlameofSalvation - Sadly, too many people think all the great writers on Xanga are already featured. I passionately disagree (and it has nothing to do with my own status, for the record). Many of my favorite blogs only get 2-3 comments per post.

    @Soultender - ha! I love the analogy, yes, Xanga is a teenager...

    @HiddenFromView_x168 - Let me make sure to explain myself; I love teenagers on Xanga. Their passion and willingness to question what we take for granted is wonderful. I'm a little concerned that people got the impression that I may not love teen Xangans.

    @tinahawt - Yes, I hate sheep-throwing as well. Although I'd enjoy a little Zuckerburg-throwing, ha. (Zuckerburg being the rather pompous originator of Facebook...).

    @cascadingmemories - Your last sentence is quite elegant. Thank you for sharing.

    @Jenavee - Why thank you, Jenavee! I'm honored that I am a rare recipient of recommendations/votes/Minis from you.

  • Ok, I'm diving in to another round of replying to comments. Sorry I can't get to every one; I tried to focus on the ones that asked questions or were particularly long.

    @CcloudsM - Yeah, I'm getting a lot more comments than usual...but you know I'm all about my consistent readers and friends first.

    @subsider34 - Well-said; I would like Xanga even more if they did a little partnering with other sites. But otherwise, they offer an excellent blogging platform. Blogger has no decent picture/video storage, and you can't follow other Blogger blogs without getting an RSS feeder, which is a pain.

    @just_the_girl_anachronism - You are correct, but I was a little concerned about being explicit on that point lest it sounded like I wanted to sell out female Xanga readers to male Xanga readers, ha. There's sadly already enough creeps on here (ok, one creep is one creep too many).

    @cookee_cutout - haha, yes, back to the old eProp system we go!

    @baldmike2004 - Why thank you, Michael, I'm honored. I agree that more people should take advantage of the video feature. I understand that there are privacy issues, so I tend to put up videos myself for a few weeks, and then take them down. That way I can feel free to goof off without worrying that it will haunt me for life, ha. I enjoyed your "encouragement" post from the other day, by the way, and need to recommend it if I already haven't done so.

    @burnburn - I think the blog-rings are very underrated; if people use them, they are the best way to find people with common interests.

    @Zeal4living - Agreed that Xanga's posting system is rather inflexible, and that more could be done with friends. Excellent points; that was what I was hoping for, that people would list ideas.

    @DarkAngelKat00 - And I think others would agree with you. This post suggests changes, but maybe the majority of Xangas feel that all is well, and that there is no need for changes. That is ok with me, as long as the Xanga staff is paying attention and checking if that is true or not.

    @Bukowski_Rules - Yes! I hate that too! How can an editor gush about Blogger or WordPress and not mention Xanga? Xanga still is one of the top 500 sites on the Internet, and 1 out of every 200 users, by the last stats I saw, has a Xanga or visits Xanga. It has always puzzled (and angered) me why Xanga doesn't get more positive media attention.

  • @lotta_valdez - Yes, not all great blog writers are featured, and it takes time to build community. Nearly none of my first readers still reads; I've hunted down most of my current readership from blogrings, metros, and whatever else I can find.

    @craftygirl - And THAT is the million-dollar question for me, what does Xanga DO now? I hoped to spur a conversation on Xanga so that people would start thinking "What do I want out of Xanga? How can we get more people on Xanga? How could I make my Xanga experience better?" I'm not trying to start some sort of Xangan user revolution. But I am trying to start a conversation to get people to think.

    @ixcrisxi - Perhaps that is part of the problem; Xangans are considering themselves as artists, and instead of considering how they can comment on other people's sites and form a community, they are becoming much too individualistic? I am concerned about this trend, because then we will all just end up promoting our own sites and neglecting friendship with those who we don't think can help make us more famous. That would be sad.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    Well let's hope so I recommended the post, hopefully we can get some folks chatting about it.

  • Thank you very much for your comment. :)

  • I have a facebook account and a Xanga account, and I use them differently.  My facebook "friends" are all people I know irl, my Xanga "friends" I only know online. I read several blogspot/blogger sites, but have not had an account there so can't comment on their features, however I think it may be better known as a blogging site than Xanga, at least among the post-college crowd (#9).  I have 4 teenage boys, and from what I can tell, Myspace is losing popularity with that age (teenagers) as well.  I was inactive on Xanga for a period of time and came back recently, and I am impressed by the new features and changes that have been made.  I love how easy it is to upload photos, audio, video and other content. I also like the footprints feature - it's interesting to see who is coming and going on your site. 

  • Hey John! Actually my last day of work was Tuesday. We had a going away party Tuesday night. I've been very careful about blogging recently. I actually accepted a job offer to start on Monday but I haven't officially told my former employer yet. Just procrastinating. The new job is in 401k at a company called Exel Logistics. They are a sister company to DHL. I'll help manage their 5 401k plans and a deferred comp and profit sharing plans. It is exactly the direction I want to go in my career and plus it pays way better than what I was making before. It's very exciting but I already miss my old co-workers. How are thing for you? You've been out there quite a while by now. Do you like it?

  • I'm kind of insulted by the idea that Xanga should market to women. Why should I need to be marketed to as a woman, and not as a good, talented, dedicated writer who happens to have a blog?

    As far as Xanga, I would describe it as blogging for adults. Most teens don't stick around here for long.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    I do see your point. It does make sense that a lot of the trends suggest that Xanga is becoming incredibly individualistic. I still don't think that the issue of community has a lot to do with the fact that people aren't finding Xanga a popular option as far as internet communities are concerned. I think that providing a forum for users is a great step in order to institute an on-going dialog between writers and public readers. I also think that Xanga has taken several steps in order to make our blogs for like mini-threads so that we can discuss a number of topics about an issue in one place. In a way, a blog can be seen as a forum in itself. It may just be that the overall organization of the website should be improved to provide more accessible features and more user-friendly options for new members. Maybe the issues in popularity, if they exist, are all about compatibility between web browsers and how user-friendly the site is. I just think that the original point you brought up suggested that there was an exclusive relationships between time and popularity. This is not a distinct and rigid comparison to make considering the strides we have made as far as applications that condense the amount of time we spen don actual sites through RSS feeds.

  • @GreekPhysique - Well I am glad that you are in acceptance of Teenage Xangans.  Because I just read a different blog that actually thinks teenagers should be banned from Xanga until they are 20 because they are holding Xanga back.  Which is crazy.  Because anyone should have the right to use Xanga, and not just older people because they think that their posts are going to be so much more whismical than a teenagers.

  • ... and then they added this stupid "recommend" feature which you can't shut off unless you ban your friends. Sure, you can stop your own site from being recommended, but you still get everyone's else's recommendations. Their biggest mistake was this "feature". And to think we wanted to close our MySpace accounts ...

  • i dig this blog.

    i like how you put the important parts in bold because i don't like to read random rambling.
    well done:]

  • if u check out my blog, i'll check out urs!
    i'll even subscribe to it if u do too

  • Hm, odd. I'd never thought about most of these things.
    I never really had a problem as a new user, but I was never really out to put my content out there. I'd tried Livejournal and found it impersonal and hard to get into. I just wanted an online diary-type thing. I love my Xanga!
    Now that I'm starting to get more into the community side of things, actually looking at blogs written by people I don't know and what-have-you, I'd like to see some...direction? Deciding what Xanga wants to be (I vote blog).
    Great post, though!

  • very good ideas...xanga will never die for me but I have only 2other friends that actual still use it..=/

  • There are some valid points made with your entry. Thank you for sharing them. Have a good one.

  • no matter what happens, i am still gonna stick to Xanga as my main blog site...others are just rubbish...haha...i love xanga!

  • LOVE your entry. I agree with you 100%. Xanga is unique and I hope it always will be.

    I have a great idea. If it's important for the Xanga team to create something original to make Xanga better, why don't us users make a blog where we all can brainstorm ideas, and inform the xanga team about it?

    I'm pretty sure once they see users themselves saying what they want to see done, they would work on it? I know the xanga team has their own blogs to ask opinions and report updates, but I'm talking about a dedicated blog to "Enhance Xanga".

    What do you say? If you create the blog, I'll support you 100%. Any body else here agree?

  • @x_Light_of_hope_x - It's an intriguing idea. Let me send a little note to the Xanga team about it and see if they are interested.

  • this is really good. in the new age of online social networking, these networking sites became a part of our daily lives. I didn't come to realize there are so many "holes" within xanga, not that i think there is a problem with it, but it does needs to attract more people by adding more features. Especially #3, that made me think what the mission of xanga really is. On a mass majority, i see people using xanga like a diary, something to record about their daily lives. Another half on xanga leaves meaningful blogs and comments to share with others. But there isn't one vision for Xanga, like you said. Unless xanga accepts the range of users and target as is, then some fixing needs to go on soon.

  • Luk at my site n i'll stalk yurz 2.

  • Whaaaaaaaat? I haven't been featured in FOREVER. That's how you found my site?

    Huh. That was ages ago.

    This is really good, though. Xanga is the place to be.

  • Honestly, 176 comments??

  • I've only just joined Xanga but I found this very interesting. I looked at other sites and felt that Xanga offered the best cross-network and community feel.

  • @TheBigShowAtUD - 

    Yes, it was about 3? years ago. We're getting old! You're still one of the best bloggers on here, though--just write more often already! Your absence has caused me to get soft and accidentally praise you instead of my usual criticism--isn't that terrible?

    @NightCometh - 

    I know, isn't it showing off? Not that I'm going to stop or delete any comments anytime soon :-p

  • This is a fantastic entry.

  • I agree with your points. I think number 8 would be a great idea! So many more people would be interested because they would be appealing too so many different aspects of people.

    One thing I partly disagree with is number 2. I think they wanted it to be a social networking site and blogger site. Sort of like, "the best of both worlds." But they didn't know how to go about it and so it confused some people.

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