June 10, 2008

  • How to Make Good Comments

    Thank you for your responses to the last post--of course, thanks to some of you more than others, heh. A few kind souls asked me "What is a good comment, then?" This is a fair question. It's not fair of me to criticize commenters and then not offer any alternatives!  Why do I think commenting is so important?

    I believe each comment is an opportunity to build a relationship with someone, to share, to know and be known. In fact, before leaving my first comment, I often read the person's last five posts, check their blog-rings, and look at their pictures. If I don't think we can become friends, or don't think I can provide the person with anything they don't already have, I'll often leave without leaving a comment. That's how seriously I take comments (a bit extreme, I admit). Done right, you can reward someone for the hard work they put into posts and maybe even make a friendship that extends past Xanga into real life. A comment section can become a party, as each person builds on the other's comments and laughs at the comment before. Or, when other readers of a Xanga see the comments you'll leave, they'll come and check out your site! Done wrong...well, much needless suffering and arguments result, and that's too bad.

    Here are five tips that I try to follow in giving and receiving comments. PLEASE feel free to add your own tips. This is only my style, and everyone has different styles.

    1. Commenting on other people's pages is a privilege, not a right.

    Rejected title: Pee on my carpet again and I'll put the diaper on you myself.

    It takes me 45 minutes on average to write a post from beginning to end. I'm sure it takes some other people even longer. So when I post on someone's work, I try to show some respect. They don't have to enable comments. They can delete my comment if they want to. It is THEIR house, not mine. That's why I deliberately made it tough for commenters on my last post. Too many people try to swagger into featured posts as if it's their site, and it is rude.

    On the other hand...

    2. A comment is a gift, not a duty.

    Rejected title: If you want a handout, go to the Rescue Mission.

    A person who has left me a comment has spent energy to log in, type in their comment, and hit submit. That's worth something to me. I have no right to demand comments from people, or beg for them. I try not to be depessing, ask for pity comments, or otherwise make people feel obligated to comment here. If the person is sincerely trying to dialogue with me, I need to leave their comment up and admit they are right, even if that comment makes me look stupid.

    3. If you must compliment, be original and say what you like about the post.

    Rejected title: Many may compliment her curves, but shrewd is the man who compliments her for setting the class curve.

    Hmm, that is one weak rejected title. Anyway, my point is, people like approval, and sincere admiration always makes for a good comment. But the way to really make an impression is to tell the writer what you like about the post in detail, and make sure to not just mimic everyone else's comment. Or, start a running inside joke with the Xangan. Sometime I'll post on how to establish emotional intimacy, perhaps--it's a fascinating issue.

    For example, I was most impressed by the commenters in the last post who made jokes about the smores and the fire. That's one of the last things I mentioned, and if you make jokes about that, it proves you read my whole post and really thought about the post. However, no one seemed to notice my tags for the post--what, no one thought me tagging my post "FeaturedBait" was funny? Notice those little touches, and you get my attention.

    4. If you must criticize, start with a compliment and stay away from personal attacks.

    Rejected title: Butter them up before tossing them into the fire.

    Let's be honest. Even our best Xanga friends can make stupid posts sometimes. But at least start out your post by saying hello and being polite. Also, one has to pick their battles. For example, a commenter took offense to one of my posts. In my opinion, she misunderstood me completely, and I was tempted to respond rather angrily that she was being dense. But I tried to be nice and humor the poor ignorant soul. However, later on, I found that she was actually quite gifted--a near genius. If I had decided to criticize her as dumb just based on her Xanga, I would have lost the opportunity to make a new Xanga friend. I'm glad I kept my mouth shut.

    Here's how I would have criticized my last post: "Hey GreekPhysique, way to get on featured! But I hope you realize that many of the people commenting on featured posts are first-time visitors or new Xangans. They are just posting to be part of the conversation. Take it easy on them, my friend--not everyone has been on Xanga for years. Maybe you could post some on their pages and help them learn how to comment?"

    The comment is a delicious criticism, because it forces me to show my true self. If I just did that post to insult people, then I have to admit that I'm not really interested in helping new Xangans...but if I really did that post out of caring for a better Xanga conversation, then I'd better answer that commenter's question properly. Slither like a snake, coo like a dove, ha.

    So maybe you already are a skilled commenter, and you're excited at how people are appreciating your skills. However, there are times where you want to correct a post just to help the person. For example, you may find a Xangan who seems like a sweet person, but has problems with an addiction or is making a terrible dating choice. They don't see how unhappy they are, but you do, and you feel like helping. Should you? Well...

    5. A five-minute comment can't undo a lifetime of lies.

    Rejected title: Stop feeding caviar to the pigs!

    I have tried before to help some Xangans with various addiction issues or warped world views. But I've found that it's ridiculous to think that a few true words from me will change a lifetime of bad habits. All the anorexics on Xanga aren't going to get healthy by me commenting "Mix in a burger or two with your lemon water."  I have to be willing to make a long-term investment in the person if I want to help them make serious changes in life. And I won't do that unless the following is true:

    * The person is willing to change.

    * Their problems are simple enough to be helped without the assistance of a psychiatrist or minister.

    * Even if my efforts fail, I believe they are worth the effort.

    Otherwise, let it go. Yes, it's sad...but your meddling may even do more harm than good, if you rush in, criticize the person, and then leave. That's what bothers me about some of the religious/political/sexual debates on Xanga. If you aren't willing to engage that person who is "SO WRONG" in a conversation, then your loud shouting of your beliefs does more harm than good. The question is, do you care about helping the person improve, or do you care about being right? 

    Anyway, I wanted to wait before posting again, but I felt I owed those commenters who asked a better explanation.

Comments (101)

  • Smart move. I especially like the first four tips. I try to do them often. Now, I'd recc this post :)

  • I'd love to stop and leave a nice comment, but I just started one of my posts. Maybe it'll last thirty minutes, maybe it'll be a blow off filler to bide time before the real post.

    ......LOL, awesome!

    .....God, what've I just done?

  • You know what comments I really resent? When people just reply to a comment of mine with 'lol'. That's it. Nothing else. I mean, I hate 'lol' in the first place, but when that shows up on my home page, I just get straight up annoyed.

    (by saying this, of course, I ensure people who aren't actually capable of a broader wit will now respond to my comment with 'lol' just to be spiteful)

  • I really enjoyed your rejected title. Such a splash of humor to spice up the dry commentary!

    BAM! 2, 3, AND 4 IN ACTION, BABY!

    though I am just kidding about your dry commentary... It's very wet... Worry not... :]

  • You've successfully explained the art of commenting. I never thought you took it seriously until I read this, and it's wonderful to know that there's Xangans out there that do care what they put forth in a comment. It's like giving a great first impression, if it is a first impression.
    I just thought I was being anal expecting great, thoughtful comments, so I kinda gave up giving good comments when idiots began giving me stupid comments... thank you for reviving the hope for me :)

  • Pretty good tips- especially the last one.
    It definitely is a shame when people criticize to try and inspire change but aren't willing to put forth anything beyond that criticism.

    And congrats on your last post being featured!

    BTW- were you the one who despised this post already, or was that supposed to be our reaction? Because I thought it was a pretty good post.

  • I believe each comment is an opportunity to build a relationship with someone, to share, to know and be known. In fact, before leaving my first comment, I often read the person's last five posts, check their blog-rings, and look at their pictures. If I don't think we can become friends, or don't think I can provide the person with anything they don't already have, I'll often leave without leaving a comment. That's how seriously I take comments (a bit extreme, I admit).

    Pretty much encompasses my views on commenting. I'll read a blog and sometimes even faithfully read it but if I don't have the energy to entertain sustaining some sort of possible friendship, I probably won't comment. I also take commenting that seriously. ;p

    Sometime I'll post on how to establish emotional intimacy, perhaps--it's a fascinating issue.

    Looking forward to a male perspective on that one. ;p

  • You better believe I took a look at your tags for this post.* Freeeverse and I have talked about blogs being like homes. You just don't go to someone's house, make yourself at home, and not show up with something (a bottle of wine, perhaps). In blogs, comments are like business cards, in my opinion. Your comments are a reflection of you and so, as such, one ought to put a bit of thinking into them. And yes, "nice post, "lol," and/or complete disregard for the post (as in "visit my site, thanks") are just worthy of a big, loud BOOO! As far as sites with content that can lead to serious debates, I am of the opinion that if I do not have the time or the energy to engage in a conversation then I best just leave the post alone. Besides, what can start as a debate may turn to a shouting match.

    *I especially liked the PrepareFoPretentious...

  • Uh-oh I hope you're not going to judge me by my comment!

    I liked your post, very well written, and indepth. Good job! I never thought about comments in such a way!

  • what boggles my mind are the comments that themselves would make one damned long post.  i think if someone has that much to add to the matter they ought to put it in their own post.  thats just me.  nice summary of comment styles.

  • this is so nice and i thank you.  i try to be nice in my comments and hope they come across as nice and respectful.  my blog is my home space i write whatever comes out on any particular day, meaning my blog changes like the wind off the mt. rainier.  good post.

  • wow...i didn't realize people would actually post some vapid or banal "comment" just to have their name or blog listed in the feedback section of a "featured" post. maybe i give people too much credit. i guess some people will do whatever it takes to seek attention, even if it's on xanga and nobody else really cares.

  • I came here via a recommend from John.  I will admit that I have not read your last five posts.  I rarely look at tags.  But I always read the entire post and comment about something that makes sense or resonates with me.  I think that you have outlined some thought provoking and encouraging things for meaningful comments.  I am naturally a "complimenter" and I tend to complement without realizing it.  For me, that doesn't mean it is an invalid compliment, it just means I've made that a habit so it doesn't take as much effort to come up with one.  It hadn't occured to me that others might think it was just flattery and not sincere.  I'll have to be careful with what I say.  Thanks for pointing these things out.

  • I completely lost it when I got to rejected title 1...hope I didn't wake the neighbors.   Very good post.  So was the first, but one of the worst things about posting after about the 18th comment everything's pretty much been said.   You have well honed communication skills.  You get to the heart of the matter, and convey the lesson simply and easily.    It's an idiot proof post you've got here, and you've got that from the chief idiot himself

     

  • I read the tags this time,I loved "PretentiousProverbsAhead".

    I always leave a comment,not always a good one but I do try,I hate when a post leaves me hard pressed for a comment.

  • Thank you for making this post so much easier to comment than the last. I too try to leave good comments, and it was certainly made a challenge. It would have been easier had I looked at the tags, but since I rarely use them, I didn't think to do so. Speaking of which, the tags on this post made me laugh, especially "PrepareForPretentiousPlat". I can only assume that "itudes" got cut off, but I imagined it ending with "ypus" which led to a priceless mental picture. Enough tangent...
    Your fifth point is enough to make me want to friend you. I know there are a lot of Xangans dealing with heavy issues, and I always want to help; I agree that it takes a fully committed friendship to be worthwhile and not just passing comments of greetings or advice, but there's only one of me, and it can get overwhelming. It's sad, but I can only be a real friend to so many.

  • Well dang, the tags changed while I was here... I guess that shows how long I stayed in your e-home.

  • I didn't notice the tags in the other post and might not have noticed in this one had you not mentioned it. But they're pretty funny! Do you make a habit of this? I especially like "ExtendingMy15Minutes." Classy. ;D

    I think your last bit about having controversial conversations was very direct and made me think. This part is the one I'm thinking of: "do you care about helping the person improve, or do you care about being right?" That's something to consider in all relationships, internet-based or not. It's difficult to converse without getting stuck what you're saying and feeling embittered toward those who disagree. But it's definitely important to consider the individual, and I think that if you're passionate about what you believe and speak reasonably, you can at least make people think. I don't think it's necessarily a success to change people's minds with ease.

    Good post! :)

  • I have ADD, and have never made it all the way through a long post (like this one) or a book, until I stumbled on your page one fateful afternoon. You have a way with words that makes even the most severe case of ADD disappear, if only for a moment. After reading your blogs for a while now, I actually found the will in myself to pick up a book, and actually read the whole thing. This post, like most, if not all the others, really tells how serious you are about Xanga. For that, I say, you should get your own badge that says, "SERIOUS" (or something to that effect). Thanks, and keep 'em coming.

  • I commented on your entry yesterday, and I've started to realize that you and I agree on a lot of stuff. What's the point in trying to change someone who isn't willing to change? I've tried talking to my sister about not smoking marijuana, and she told me that she wants to make her choices. I agreed, even though I felt like screaming at her (I have my reasons). Eventually, she quit smoking marijuana by herself.

    I've been on Xanga for several years, and I know how much effort you have to put into an entry to make it grade A material. When people make grade A material entries, I try to make grade A material comments. I read your entry word for word, and I fully appreciated the organization as well as what was said in that entry. You know how to make really good entries, and it's not always about what you say, but how you present it to the people. Bold, italics, paragraphs, readable text, etc. You know what you're doing!

    Good job on the entry! I'm definitely recommending this. Keep up the good word, and hope you don't mind me subscribing to you.

  • Are your tags always that creative or did you spice them up for this post knowing we'd all be checking them out?

  • I consider my posts as expressions of my own individuality. If the comments are negative, I take them as opportunities for improvement, as I am not perfect, especially so that I do not have formal training in writing. If the comments are positive, I took them as signals to even do better, that way I have the chance to grow and improve my craft. I hope you can visit my weblog. I would definitely welcome any comments you would leave for me. Thank you in advance.

  • You do realize commenting on the last thing means they just skipped through the middle?

  • Brilliant It's like everything I've ever thought about commenting, and you wrote it down for me.

    Cheers!

    -kate
    xxxxx

  • Interesting post. I think you have some really good tips here, especially the first and the last ones. I also thought that the tags were funny, though I'll admit that I never would have looked if you hadn't mentioned the funny tag from your last post. I thought the rejected titles were really good too. And I'm sorry that this comment is so choppy, but I'm about half-asleep, so that just shows how much I wanted to read and respond. :) I hope this gets Featured.

  • In a way all these good points and adivce is like a description of how to breathe. Everybody does it. But in different manners, some better than others, according to some. But it's not like anybody can change the way someone else is breathing.

    Nice inspiriation though.

  • you should make a book on the art of commenting. good tips lol thanks XXX

  • Most of this would be nice, but not realistic. You could not be more wrong on five. Words shaped all we take to be ourselves, and a few properly selected words can change anyone overnight. It does require a gift. Another point, comments are often a vent. If you are not a gifted writer touching on real issues, then it is safe to not expect negative comments. The better one's topic and skill at addressing it, the more one should expect them. If one is very good, it is possible to use negative comments, stimulated by the same skill used to overcome number five, to stress the point of the topic.

  • Once again, this is another good post. I like seeing this sort of post where it points everyone in the direction of at least being polite to each other on our blogs. It seems that in the past weeks and months, Xanga has been the home to a lot of rude people. I think comments are important and like you, I think they deserve a lot of thought and careful consideration.

  • Very nicely said. Great points and helpful suggestions.Kudos

  • The majority of the time, I don't comment at all because I have nothing to comment about. When I do comment, I don't know how to comment them, because my comments seem really 'newbish' compare to everyone else's great comments. In the end, I'd say Great Post and leave because I feel my comment won't change anything. I never realize that people actually think a comment has so much meaning. I'm taking in what you wrote and writing my comments sincerely from now on. I know this sounds like bull and all, but I feel like I gained more knowledge and actually changed just a bit. I started with your post, writing sincerely. :] Your post changed me today and it's barely 6AM!

  • Great post! I agree with the whole "Butter them up before tossing them to the fire." I have noticed on some blogs, that people just attack, it's like they leave their better judgement behind when criticizing someone's post. Thank you for posting this. Maybe people will keep in mind what you have said when they comment. Have a good day!

  • I appreciate the detail you went into with this post. I never thought through comments to this degree.. By the way, I read it because it was recommended by a xanga friend, so I guess there are quite a few people who need help in the comment department. :)

  • Through recommends I have read your last two posts and did not comment after reading the first. I decided to comment now and tell you that you really gave me somethings to ponder. One was, how does commenting on xanga differ from commenting in a personal face to face conversation? Do you have any thoughts?

    I do believe that I will comment differently after reading your posts, you have inspired many of us!

  • I came by way of a rec, and have not read back through your site. I did read the last post you're speaking of, however.

    For me, comments can be many things, all that you've covered there and more. I appreciate any comments I get, and especially those that show the entry was actually read. Sometimes that can be done with one well chosen word, sometimes not.

    Years ago, I compared Xanga to my home. I still feel that way. People online act much differently than they would if they were in your actual house. I think that's sad. Being polite doesn't take long, but it goes a long way. This is a good entry, I'm glad I followed the link to it!

  • A recommended post, hands down. Last night I should have read this and followed number four. This woman wrote this entry on how abortion is wrong, and I just said, "Well, it IS a woman's choice." Haha.

  • I could tell you if you did any of these things on my site if you commented more. I think I do, as I comment you pretty often. My only tip is to try and comment those that comment you, especially if they are on your own Protected list, or you are on theirs. That's what I try and do. Otherwise, Id say only leave comments you'd want left on your own blog.

  • Looking for 15 more minutes of fame? It is about time someone laid out the foundation for quality commenting, this is like the "How to Xanga Guide". I usually try to put some thought into my comments, unless it's just a really funny joke then I'll put:

    lol

    @Drakonskyr -  out of spite.)

  • Hey waz up again!:)

  • Hi hi hi hi.LoL!!!

  • Yeah i think that myspace is alright.

  • ...you see, I now feel incredibly self-conscious about attaching a comment below this entry on the basis that you might psycho-analyse and deconstruct it. And I feel pressured by trying to conform to your 'suggestions' above.

     For the record; your tagging is quite genius. I might have to steal the idea and attachin random keywords to mine.

  • "Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm ... "

    When I comment, I do try to pick one or two things about the post to comment on. Something that strikes a chord with me - whether I am "for" or "against" ...

    Since I am a xanga-newbie, there is a lot I know I need to learn about etiquette, customs and social mores on this site. I appreciate knowing that a poster is at least going to read my comment. I am guilty of a couple of the sins you enumarated in your previous post, sometimes. I leave long comments too often, I know. I respond with my own parallel experience too often. But ... at least I care enough to try my best.

    I only recently learned what tags were, and I admit, probably wouldn't normally pay too much attention to them. But yours are witty, matching your blogging style perfectly. They also seem to hint that you don't take yourself too seriously. ; >

    Thanks for the pointers. This should be required reading for all newcomers.  

  • If I could salute you in anyway for mentioning the part about what constructive, decent criticism looks like it would look like my arm raising to my hand to my forehead and then moving my hand away from my forehead.
    Of course you can't see it, so I hope the eProps are enough. ^_^
    Very few people know how to (or want to) be nice when they don't like something, never considering that it took the person time.

    "Rejected title: If you want a handout, go to the Rescue Mission."

    I am seriously curious to what the "Rescue Mission" is...

  • Great post. Thanks for helping us all improve our commenting skills.

  • I mean't to add, at the top right of the comment box is a "comment help" link. I propose a petition should begin that your points should be included amongst it.   

  • hi

    I liked your post,

     very well written, Good job!

    as3ad

  • Comment on "How to make good comments": A well-thought out and nicely expressed exposition on the comment system.

    Rejected comment on "How to make good comments": That was awesome dude! LOL!!!

  • Thank you for the commentary tips! I agree with you though, if one has nothing encouraging to write, then just refrain from a leaving a comment.  Great posting!

  • i'm really interested in business. i'm pretty set on the four i'm applying to, but i'd appreciate any suggestions!

  • John,

    Thanks for the comment. I can always count on your for a great opinion. It is so true that the minute we let ourselves relax on something, the slippery slope theory kicks in. I did the same with working out and have put on 5-10 pounds in the past year (good food tastes soooo good though....know what makes it taste good? fat..it's a viscious cycle).

    I had the same thought about housing hunting. I figure I can get all those misconceptions out of my head now and when I am actually ready I will be able to make fast decisions.

    Hows work going for you? I saw that you were features yesterday and was proud to be a subscriber!!

  • you really do implement these... you always leave good comments.

    it's nice you've taken so much time to think these things out and be so courteous :)

  • Great post! You're like the Xanga Guru. So coo..coo..coo..

  • zomg this post sux lol haha ur dumb

    ...et cetera.

  • interesting post

  • @rs1234567890 - No no, you got me. It is dry commentary, which is why I put in the rejected titles to add a little spice.

    @lawmixitup - Oh, that was me despising it, because I realize I'm a comment nerd and was afraid few would understand why I felt so passionate about this.

    @MoriahJoy - haha it'll be good, trust me. I love communication in general.

    @CarmenDeBizet - Thanks for noticing my tags! Although I admit I sort of pressured people to notice, ha.

    @Such_Were_You - Thanks so much I'm glad someone enjoyed my rejected post titles.

    @grammarboy - Yeah, it's about figuring out how many loads you can carry. I think about 3-5 true sponsorships are possible...pass that number and I think it quickly gets overwhelming. And yes, I switched the tags when I realized Xanga's letter limit was cutting me off.

    @brandon32490 - By all means, subscribe away.

    @mightymarce - I almost always put jokes in my tags, it's a trick I learned from another web-site guy.

    @CallMeQuell - Bah Humbug! I bet you hand out lumps of coal to poor children at Christmas, and give them one match to share to light a fire with to warm their poor cold selves. :-p You've ruined it for me!

    Everyone else who I didn't reply to directly--thanks much! I just wanted to try to answer the most obvious questions or comments, so that's why I might have skipped replying to you. (Either that, or I despise you and wish you never joined Xanga :-p but it's the first part for all of you, I'm sure.)

  • So, I have no idea who you are, but I got to your site from someone else who I haven't had a chance to comment on... shame on me. Anyway. Great post, even if I don't always follow the tips. Usually though, I don't comment unless I have something worthwhile to say and the post was meaningful.... in this case, I probably still have nothing worthwhile to say, but I will anyway. and like CallMeQuell said... commenting on the last thing often means they skipped or forgot what came earlier. It's people who comment the middle that paid attention.

  • #5 is the hardest for me because it rings the truest.

  • Alright. As you saw, my post wound up being real. Here I am, finishing the comment I started more than 16 hours ago.

    While I enjoyed the post and thought you hit everything right on, I thought it could have used something else. What's the protocol for commenting a beautiful Norwegian spy? Do the same rules apply, or do you have to be more suave?

  • RYC: lol yeah. None of my friends are racist so it was all good. It's not hard to pick teams when you got 3 people of each race.

  • @relaxolgy - I would agree that in some ways, Tip #5 invalidates Tips #1-4. But sometimes, people just don't know better. If just 5 out of 50 of these commenters would improve because of this post, I would be very pleased.

    @lillywashere - Aww, I'm happy to hear that! I've been here for 4 years, so I've had plenty of practice. Don't worry about sounding silly at first--keep writing, and you'll get better fast.

    @charlieseros - Yeah, I've never understood the point of going to someone's blog and screaming at them, and then acting proudly as if one had accomplished something. It's better to be nice first, and only criticize one thing at a time.

    @Over_my_coffee_cup - I actually think one can be more thoughtful on Xanga. So many of us have superficial comments in real life, but on Xanga I feel free to immediately get to the heart of the issue. On the other hand, it's hard to joke or compliment on here, because one cannot see my face when I do so. Good question.

    @sortingandforting - FOUL! haha That's as bad as if I went to some site, quoted a Bible verse, and acted if the person should immediately be convinced. I try not to just assume that everyone comes into life with the same worldview assumptions that I do. If I did assume that, I'd be disappointed by humanity on a daily basis!

    @squeakysoul - You know, Squeaky, I don't know why I don't comment on your blog more. You certainly write thoughtful entries. Perhaps it is because we are slightly different and yet the same? On the one hand, we're both thoughtful Christians...and on the other hand, our gender/location (I'm a small town type of guy)/nationality is different. And the other thing I can think of is that you seem to have a decent number of friends and commenters, so I don't feel quite as obligated as I do with my poor Xangan friends who only have 1-3 comments per post.

    In the end, though, I disagree with commenting back obligations: Tip #2 does apply. I want people to comment on me because they liked what I said, not just because I commented on their page. 

    @bubba6789 - Drakonskyr? This is your idea of a joke, isn't it? I'm onto you! haha

    @danteCARAX - Steal away! I learned the trick from someone else I think, so I can't claim full originality.

    @CanadianBroad - Take your time learning I've been here 4 years! I don't think I want to go back and look at my first comments, ha.

    @ScOtTsKaTz - A rescue mission is where food and medicine is handed out to the needy. The joke was if you really are that needy that you need my comment, you need to go to a Rescue Mission, because you are truly bad off.

    @alpine_white - Now that is how to compliment! Funny stuff, my Xanga friend, way to take my own joke and make it funnier.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    Our nationality is different? You are not American?

  • I should add that most of the people who comment the most and whose input I appreciate the most, come from different ages, genders, locations, and "nationalities". I guess if one is not interested, one is not interested. Friendship and chemistry can't be forced.

  • @nessajoy_21 - I'm pleased that one of my regular commenters thinks that my comments match my post.

    @Amandasbiggestfan - I insist you use this as your profile pic: http://www.basketballhoopsunlimited.com/store/ProdImages/ABF-Truck-COB-sm.gif .

  • @squeakysoul - I was born in the US, but my parents came from Greece a few years before I was born. Therefore, I don't consider myself fully American. I should have said ethnic backgrounds, but after typing replies to so many people, I grew sloppy in my word usage.

    @squeakysoul - Now that I think of it, I don't comment much on any popular Xangan's site. I've commented a grand total of about 10 times on TheTheologian'sCafe, Drakonskyr, ABF, DrugInducedDuck, and antisoccermom combined. I want to have a conversation with people directly, not fight to get my lines of type noticed among 30 other people--it may be selfish, but it's how I roll. And yes, you are a popular Xangan too, you can't deny it.

     I'm actually hoping that I don't get any more comments on this post--I like my posts to just go up to 25 at most, so I don't have to hit "next" to see the next set of comments and can think about what each person said.

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    See, I just don't buy it, because I do see you commenting people who get a lot of comments (though I won't name them here) including many who don't share your exact ethnic background or nationality. Of the people who are a bit friendlier with me on Xanga, not a single one shares my exact location, ethnic background, and in some cases, come from different countries. It all comes down to this: if one cares enough to make the effort, one will do so. There's no getting around doing the work. I find that protected postings that have a lot less comments are a great place to get closer to people. Etc. I just see it as a question of interest/chemistry, and if you're not interested, that's cool. I think I'll survive. One can't be friends with everybody. Ah well!

  • @GreekPhysique - 

    Haha. I did respect that woman's beliefs, though, even she is so obviously pro-life and I'm pro-choice.

  • I'm actually hoping that I don't get any more comments on this post--I like my posts to just go up to 25 at most, so I don't have to hit "next" to see the next set of comments and can think about what each person said.

    I laughed aloud because I thought the same thing a few minutes before reading your response as I was scrolling through comments. "Sheesh, if he gets many more comments - how can he or any of us keep track of any conversation threads?"

    Should try to be a little less popular. ;p Or something.

  • First off, I think it's great that you decided to help out Xangans by giving them some inspiration and how-to when it comes to making good comments (those of which I found interesting and true). I especially, realte to the very last one you mentioned, #5. As it talks about dealing with Xangans who have problems such as eating disorders, etc. I have personally made an effort to help these people, I have failed, yes. However, as you also mentioned, sometimes you are able to help people or at least you give it your best shot and you feel as though it was worth it, in the end. I have been able to help one person, truly, in which I'm very proud of and I'm happy that I can be of help and be someone that this person can talk to.

    Thanks for posting this, I believe it will help Xangans with their commenting skills! =)

  • Great tips. Doesn't mean I'll follow them.

  • P.S. May I link to you?

  • thanks for the tips and for the subscription!

  • I noticed the FeaturedBait. And I thought it was cute. I was just afraid to leave a comment on the last entry for fear of doing it poorly! :)

  • much thanks!

    quality post btw. four is definitely a favorite.

  • Why are there instructions on leaving comments?  When someone leaves a comment, it's their idea, their opinion, their thought.  It shouldn't be directed by someone elses opinion on what's a correct comment or what's not correct.  I'm sorry but I think you should be grateful that people read your posts and comment!  Now you've got everyone wondering if what they say is right or wrong!  I'm new at all this and love Xanga but hell if I want to feel like I have to analyze all my comments!  For all of you reading this, if you come to my site, comment me and I won't pick your comment apart; I'll appreciate it! (Except I am sensitive so be careful what you say....hahahahaha).

  • @SmokyMountainDreams - I hope you're prepared for a lot of "LOL, YOU'RE AWESOME, SMD!!!" type comments on your page. :-p I understand what you're saying--look at how I critiqued my post in #4 above, for example. Sure, I am putting pressure on people. And I will try to be nice since you said you are sensitive.

    However, I must ask, did you read the post carefully? I said "Here are five tips that I try to follow in giving and receiving comments. PLEASE feel free to add your own tips. This is only my style, and everyone has different styles." So I said upfront this was only my opinion. Please explain which tip you disagreed with. I like a good argument, as long as the other person has interesting things to say. I promise to listen to what you have to say.

  • well written post, this should be the proper etiquette for xanga commenting

  • I guess I failed at one of your tips!  I didn't read the post carefully!  I've only been a "Xangan" for a few months and it's still exciting for me to receive comments, even if they're LOL, or you're great, or you suck!  It's just nice to know people are reading my posts.  And, I appreciate you being nice.  I promise to read more carefully and not jump to conclusions so quickly. 

  • This may be the last comment I ever leave on your site, because I'm going to be walking on eggshells in the future. lol

    Seriously, excellent thoughts. Much of that has gone through my mind as well, although I've never voiced those opinions, but some of what you said was things I had never thought about. Keep up the good work!

    Wouldn't it be cool if we really COULD change people with a five minute comment?

  • I'm very glad that you followed up the next entry with what makes good comments as it does very well portray what many of us Xangans look for in good comments and as well what builds a good Xangan.

    It's funny you mention about the FeaturedBait tag, as I happened to see that when I was reading your last post. I kinda just put it out of mind figuring that maybe you put it there because you tagged entries you felt were worthwhile and meaningful with that type of tag. I guess if I would of read more of your posts I wouldn't have made that type of inference. Keep up the wonderful work!

  • ::thinking whether a comment is appropriate or not:: Great post!
    ::no, too general, boring... add some jazz!:: Awesome post, I learned a lot!
    ::hmm... nope... sound like I'm kissing butt:: Cool, man.
    ::too sarcastic... um, um.... AGHHHHH!::

    Thank you for helping me lose my confidence in comment posting! ;)

    Just kidding, man -- thanks for the education :)

    Much Love,
    Jaye

  • I like number 2. People feel that they have to comment every single entry of their subscription list. If I have nothing to say, then I don't say anything.

    But sometimes I quote the entry and go: AHAHAHAHAHHAAHA because I like the wording.

    I'm not a A-List Xangan...(yet) but I do leave some pretty above average comments if I do say so myself. (I believe this because the A-Listers always comment me back on my site... and I check to see if they did the same to at least 4 of their other commenters... and they usually don't. It makes me feel special.)

  • AHH! the double (now triple) commenting totally goes against what I said and everything you said.
    Sorry about that my computer froze

  • @SmokyMountainDreams - Eh, I was being rather picky myself. Thanks for stopping by.

  • Ooh, maybe I should take notes on this =]

  • i feel so guilty about my comments now. i don't even take the time to use proper grammer. i usually only comment on people when they write something that makes me think for longer than two seconds before i move on and do something else.

    i do love your tags; they make me laugh so.

    i agree that one should take time to think about comments before leaving them-many times i've looked at a comment i've left and winced. painfully.

    way to improve our xanga world, buddy.

    <3

  • Great tips but I always leave a comment and I try not to be mean to anyone. I will try to remember what you said about leaving comments. Have a great weekend...

  • I especially agree with your fifth guideline, because I have ready so many posts that are heartbreaking and all I want to do is reach out and rescue the person. But it's true, how much help can you possibly give someone over a xanga page? And maybe they don't even want solutions to their problems, they just want to be understood. I don't enjoy reading other people's insights and philosophies because I want to correct them, I just like exploring different viewpoints and opinions.

  • You are a very good commenter.  The ones I have read are excellent.  Light hearted, up beat, showing appreciation for the writer while demonstrating your intelligence, humanity, and good social skills.  You make people glad you stopped by.  You are like the happy xanga fairy bringing joy to many.  Or maybe the xanga chaplain.  Perhaps you don't realize that you have a special talent for xanga.  Perhaps this is why you notice bad comments...perhaps good comments are super easy for you, you are a natural, and have a difficult time understanding when people are not.  Perhaps there should be xangologists to study these things.

  • I agree with your tips on commenting, although........

    I favor personal (and rational) expression more than anything.

    In tip #4, I suppose you made the more mature choice in not saying that the woman is dense. You made the decision not to judge her. I, however, would have criticized her immediately, not saying that she was dense, but her comment was.

    I don't harshly criticize or be blatantly negative on anyone's blog, but my posts do contain quite the harsh criticisms on certain things. Thus, I must welcome harsh criticisms if they come. My thing is, you can comment what you like on my blog, just as long as it's in a mature and rational way.

    And I agree with #5, although you now bring into question what you consider a "warped world view". If the person does not believe this is what they have, or if they believe that that's what you have, you will have already entered what can easily turn into bitter conflict. I try to offer up my opinions on things and provide people with new understandings (as they can do for me), but to consider myself helping someone with their world view is something else entirely.

  • @Jason - As I grow older, I've come to think that I shouldn't get in an argument with someone unless I think the person themselves is worthy of argument. It's a funny belief, but it basically means that if I don't care about the person a lot, I won't argue with them. Why waste my time, energy and truth throwing pearls to pigs that I don't even care about? So thus, in #4, I refused to argue with her then because she seemed to be unintelligent based on that one comment. I think you're right, though, that we must have harsh criticism at times. Too many people on the Internet are looking for affirmation instead of truth.

    As for #5, you see my point exactly. If they already think I and my beliefs are warped, then how can I change them? There's not much of a chance there. By "warped" world view, I'm talking more about the serious cases (anorexics, destructive hedonists, racists/people who hate a religion, etc.) rather than your garden-variety person who disagrees with me. Although to be honest, all of us have a warped world view because we not have the mind of Christ, if I am being truly precise...

  • @charlottegeely - Aww, thanks. I do have a perplexing dilemma in that I'm rather good at Xanga, but don't know what to do about it. I certainly can't make a career out of it, and I don't even know that Xanga is what God wants me to be involved in at this time. But it does seem like I have an ability to talk to people on here and help them out, so I feel that I should be here. It's so confusing at times, but hopefully I will learn how to best use what gifts I have in this area to make a difference.

  • Wow you have an amazingly deep view on comments i must say i like it  I feel almost the same way because i believe that when you write to an individual your lending a part of yourself to them to view

  • I usually ignore tags, but I read them this time because you pointed them out. =P

  • I think you take commenting all too seriously. Everyone can share what they think - there is freedom of speech around! Just must sure the comment is readable and understandable. Otherwise, if everyone is typing over-lengthy and serious comments, that would be so boring. However, it also depends on the site commented as well.

  • WOW thanks I learned a lot!!!

  • LOL....... I never knew commenting was so complicated.... Now I will be nervous everytime I try to comment a post....

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