March 22, 2009

  • Summing up Online Relationships

    I thought it would be good to write some kind of concluding statement to online relationships and safety after all the posts on it these last few weeks. This is hardly the last word, just a postscript of sorts.

    I. Never let your online relationship progress further in your head than it has in real life. Here on Xanga, I follow a careful little sequence of activity. I first talk on Xanga via comment, then by message. If it looks like we have some things in common, I then suggest we talk by AIM. But, I try to withhold personal information as long as possible until I'm sure we actually do have a possibility for a real friendship. I try not to connect with someone who is not ready to give back--else I'll be giving myself without receiving anything back. And I try not to get too excited about new friendships unless the other person shares my enthusiasm.

    II. Expose your relationship to the light. Beware of someone who just wants to talk by message or by AIM, or seems to be allergic to anything that would yield a paper trail. Beware of someone who has 500 friends but claims you're the only one he/she is interested in. And don't be afraid to ask your real-life friends to take a look at the person's e-mails or site and see what they think. Better a little embarrassment now than shame later.

    III. Know your kryptonite, and be naturally suspicious. For example, on Xanga there used to be a site for a woman who claimed to be your normal down-to-earth person--except that her photos/videos were way too well-done to be the work of an average photographer. She was impersonating an actress, for the record. For men, beware of photos/video that are "too good to be true"; if you're average, and a super-hot girl is talking to you, she probably isn't real! I know that's brutal, but hey, just being honest. For women, if a man is constantly bombarding you with sweet compliments--look, you're probably not that good. Don't shut off your critical thinking just because you are turned on by how he/she interacts with you. Make them give up information first if you are a woman--you have more to lose, in some ways, and if he can't appreciate that, it's a sure sign you shouldn't be around him. Also, it's very easy to look up information about most people on Xanga; so if the person sounds unusually knowledgeable about you, or is too quick to add you on Facebook without permission, I would be suspicious/cautious. Real friends don't get pushy.

    IV. Respect the other person's space. It can be very easy to feel you truly understand the person from reading their Xanga. I've felt this way many times. But even if this really did happen, don't use that knowledge to forge articificially rapid intimacy with them. Be patient, and form the relationship naturally. You should not be divulging your life's secrets (or hearing their secrets) in the first week of knowing each other; that's unhealthy.

    V. Hope wisely, and you may be rewarded. I once saw a basketball game on TV, and said "Wow, I really like that one girl on the team, there's something different about her!" I read up on her, and realized that amusedly, we did have several things in common. Knowing that, I went on Myspace, found her profile, talked to her about what we had in common...and she's a friend today. There are some amazing possibilities on the Web. You can communicate with people who you normally may not be able to meet, and sometimes, amazingly, you hit it off and form a lovely friendship. After all the semi-discouraging things I said above, it's still true that many tight, life-long friendships and marriages can be formed from the Web.

    VI. You're never completely safe, anywhere; you're just safer. Let's be honest; there are just as many dangers in your own neighborhood as there are on the Web. That friendly neighbor a few years older than you who waves to you while he's cutting the grass? You don't even want to know what he watches in the privacy of his own home. I at times get annoyed with this idea that "well, if they are on the Internet and aren't smiling, they are bad; if I know them and they smile, they are good." Always think safety, but realize that you can never fully protect yourself. Now, should this make you overly afraid? No; it just means that you realize that there's only so much you can do, and you shouldn't drive yourself crazy about what you can't control.

    VII. On a meetup, never lose control. So suppose you have found someone trustworthy, well-known, and followed all the rules above. You decide to meet your friend in person. Make sure you have an exit strategy ready if the two of you don't get along. Don't decide to stay over their apartment; don't let them drive you to and from the airport; etc. You want to retain your freedom if something doesn't go well. And be careful about giving out your phone #/address; basically, never meet a person you feel you can't trust with personal information.

    Ugh, not my best post, but I felt like I should give a few tips while I'm at it. How about you, any stories/tips to add?

Comments (90)

  • Thanks for posting this.  :)  

  • Your tags are hilarious! lol

    Well summarized!

  • Definitely smart advice!

  • Wise suggestions, and not totally paranoid like some of the others on this subject I have read. 

  • @trunthepaige - lol you mean like me?  I am totally paranoid.  But with good reason.

  • All good advice.

    Not that I follow any of it, but then again, I am on a fast path to my own rapid destruction...

  • I really liked this; I already follow these rules :]

  • good points, and I like that you left hope in there =]

  • @x_Butterflies_and_Hurricanes_x - well yeah a few of yours went a bit far. Unless like you someone really is stalking you. It is all situational.

     I live in a very secure place. And I am not exactly helpless. still try tracking me down from the information in my blog. That would be very hard to do. And I would likely find out you were looking for me before you found me. So I do believe in being careful

  • Excellent tags and some swell advice, as well.

  • be more cautious than optimistic. online relationships tend to make you feel like you've someone their whole lives, when in reality, you haven't and that unknown is a hidden variable that can haunt you later on. sometimes people only reveal certain parts of themselves - rarely the whole. be aware of that

  • @trunthepaige - quite true.  I probably wouldn't suggest most of those things unless someone has reason to suspect they are being stalked.  

  • Quite good. I give you snaps.

  • i've never met anyone online, offline(yet). so this is helpful

  • nope nothing to add :)

    great post...

  • Some good tips there.

  • Good advice, though both of my parents are married to people they met online, it simply never worked out for me.

  • really like this. Great advice. I'll keep this in mind.

  • I definitely agree with all of the points you made in this post. I've found that when guys constantly compliment me, that they'll soon kick it up a notch and go overboard - which is why my MSN has a block list of over 100 now. (No exaggeration there; luckily this is the only MSN screenname I've ever had, so it's accumulated in more than a year. :P )

    I think that you covered most of the main bases, that span out on all of the others. I definitely agree with the part about following a sequence. I've seen people go into literal relationships online, after only knowing the person for an hour. Actually, tons of my friends done that when they were younger. After a short amount of days they realized they were dealing with a pervert and left the entire situation.

  • Very wise advice, Greek.

    I especially agree with 4...
    Blogging can be very one dimensional...
    I think its very difficult to get to know some one well through just the Internet too.
    but I agree.
    Ive met two of my best friends on Xanga.

  • @spokenfor - 

    sooooo true. Good add-on!

  • I have a word of subbing & adding friends in Xanga:

    Never simply adding friends to ayone UNLESS you are very sure that you will visit&comment that Xangan very often. In that case, sub first. But then, after you pay someone a visit, he/she might sub/befriend you. In rare (lucky) cases, both. In that case, accept that or you might regret "why I don't do that at the first place?" Maybe you need a few comments and visits to making him/her adding you as a friend (of course there are Xangans who expecting you to do that). But then, if things does not change, perhaps you are just a reader to him/her. In that case, you might just want to read posts as subscription digests only. But I will still visit&comment, since that I'm not stalking anyway. I'm sure that he/she will at least like the credits given to him/her (when commenting), isn't it?

    Anyway, in case that you comments are replied and it happens in a few posts, add him/her (or he/she will add you first), because you are now building mutual friendship. Once you are friends with him/her, be sure to continue visiting&commenting as usual and you online friendship will get better.

  • These are really great tips. I've never been the type to meet someone from online in the "real" world, but it's a definite way to meet people, even potential boyfriends/girlfriends, so these are well needed tips!

  • yeah, this was good.  only 2 people on Xanga have my phone number, and I would trust them with my life : )

  • Very interesting!

    I've never moved past comments cuz I'm still a tad paranoid after a somewhat sketchy Myspace occurence.  Since then, I always keep online conversation in a public forum. Probably unfair/overly cautious of me though.

  • Good advise.  For number VII, I would add the fact that the real life meet up should be somewhere out in the public like an eating establishment for safety purposes and to retain freedom.

    Also, number III is good advice for just about anything (contests, job opportunities, etc.)

  • I have to say I learned much of what you speak of the hard way....but your words are full of wisdom for those who haven't been burned yet....and a good reminder for those of us who have

  • i once had a meetup with a xangan who verbally burned one of my extended family members to his face at dinner.

    i almost made out with him then and there.

    hahaha, j/k, nothing happened, but it's been... sheesh, like four, maybe going on five years we've been friends now?

    i found him through a homestarrunner blogring, and read a story about his mom that i thought was really touching and couldn't help but comment on.  eventually one night, he IMed me (he got my screenname off of my profile), and then a few months later i gave him my number and we chatted on the phone.  then maybe another year or so later i was near enough to his town for a meetup.  we tried to meet up again last year, but i was really sick so we had to cancel, sadly.  but honestly, even though we only talk on the phone for the most part, we had a pretty tight friendship for a while.  and we both agreed a few times, God had a reason for bringing us together, so you never know!  imagine a whole relationship built on a flash cartoon!

  • That's legit!  I am suppppper weird about online dating, but I realize there are great possibilities there so I try not to close the door to it.  Good advice, I appreciated it. 

  • Thanks for the post. Well said. I have a daughter on xanga and, yep, - thank you, well said.

  • I think very often people tend to create an alter reality online, sometimes complete with alter egos and personalities. A blog is a great way to get to know about someone, but not know someone. That takes time.

    In the end I think that the bottom line is a personal, face to face relationship is the only way to completely related to someone. The online stuff is a good starting point sometimes, but should be, like salt, used sparingly.

  • It looks like a nice set of rules. I guess I am a bit more cautious than even all of these. But then I have had a bad experience.

  • thanks for the safety tips! they pretty much covered anything I could think of...

  • I couldn't have said it better myself!

    : )

    How are you tonight?

  • Great advice. Ive only met 1 person online. & thats when we talked for over a year first. Weve been friends since& its been almost 6yrs

  • I met my boyfriend online  ^_^}

    Good tips.

  • I.  Exchange pictures.

    2. If interested, meet.

    3. If meeting doesn't go well, move on.

    4. You just saved a hell of a lot of time.

  • What about the rule to always pretend to be somebody else?

  • i think this is a great post and advice that applies to anyone on the net looking to meet. it's really hard getting to know someone's REAL life through just blogging/web profiles. people will project a less-than-honest image of themselves and misleading personalities. All-in-all, be very wary of who you choose to meet.

  • Thanks...I could have used this advice last year!...but well it's still great advice for some other poor shmuck!

  • These were some good tips although I currently not planning on an online relationship.

  • So basically - Be Smart not Stupid.. lol

  • is xanga relationship really that big?!
    admittedly i rarely xanga or write giant post like this
    but i guess it's an interesting perspective from someone who has been throu the whole online dating thing

  • I never realized how much you trusted me to drive you back to your hotel. You must've gotten a little worried after that fourth time of me missing the street. :P

  • I'll deffinately will use this advice. I find it absolutly helpful in the present and yet near future tense. Very well spoken. Couldn't have said it better. Precautious is best way to go.

  • good tips. i just try to keep relationships on the website that it started on... 

  • Thanks for the advice.
    It is necessary to make online friends cautiously.

  • Excellent points. Thanks for posting this entry! 

  • I met my boyfriend online, and he drove 2,000 miles to be with me in NC. and we moved right in together. somethings just happen and they work out. rules are stupid. -.-

    and 2 years later, we are still together and just as in love as we were.

  • Good advice.

  • That is very good information.  I would add to your last suggestion that the first meeting should be somewhere that is very public - meet for lunch. I would say it's riskier meeting someone in a bar than it is online. I met my husband online 17 years ago.

  • good tips, sir.

  • Lol. Great post.

  •  the only piece of advice i could add...
    if their posts, IMs, emails, phone calls, or anything else rubs you the wrong way, don't meet up with the person alone.  use your best judgment.  if the person says or posts things that you wouldn't accept as normal from someone you met face to face - that's a sign!
    now that i've said that - i met one of my best friends in the whole world on xanga!!!  he's a sweetheart, i love him to death!!!

  • I wish I knew this sooner. Otherwise I wouldn't have been raped by girls so much :[

  • VII. That's a great one.

  • Friendship is like a good wine

    The only difference is you can allways buy good wine

    You can never buy true friendship

    You have to earn it

  • In sort of an odd way, I've managed to meet most of my actual GFs online, just because I tend to like to personally know them BEFORE I start anything. I find that if you know a person's mind really well, physical attraction becomes icing on the cake (hopefully). The problem with a lot of relationships now days, is that everyone is so driven by lust and hormones, no one really takes the TIME to get to KNOW one another.

  • I think these are great tips!

  • :)

  • awesome advice. I had to learn the hard way about one person though. Not pretty.

  • these are great tips. see it makes me feel bad about xanga meetups because I really want to go to one, but I'm scared, and I don't think I have someone I can take with me in case things don't go well/its awkward/scary. But I don't want to go alone!

    the furthest I've progressed internet relationships is strictly AIM.

    who knows now with xangaTV and all, depends on if I hop on that bandwagon or get to vlogging.

  • The first point is the greatest, and so is being aware of photos. So young and so wise, the force is with you :)

  • Ah, nice, nice ~

  • no pics and if so bring blurry ones so that they wont find you

    its called the world wide web for a reason!

    ever heard of google earth?
    ya you could find out where somewhere lives
    like you said no giving out address and phone numbers
    but sometimes by the computer alone....well havent done it and dont plan to its creepy BUT ya thats the best I could give

    not trying to make you guys a hypochondriac but basically the internet is so impersonal you really dont know what people are thinking while online
    Smileys just doesnt cut it with me though.
    Safety is the best policy.

  • good post!

  • good advice.

    maybe another one would be, make sure they are for real. web cam and phone calls, don't just assume that the picture really shows who they are.never meet them at night unless you are with a group of friends? 

  • I think a huge part of it is the comfot to meet the person. I mean Ive been talking to people online and wanted to meet friends men and women the girls im talking to are cool we do like messenger confrences and talk to each other the guys are like jealous and wanna meet up all the time. I havent met any one but it makes me kinda nervous ya know? Ive stopped talking to most of the guys. creepers!

  • BAD BAD BAD most of them have in person relationships so they are CHEATTTERSSSS

  • I'd add: don't make friends with people online who believe it is acceptable to make friends online. Basically, if someone needs a friendship so badly that they have to go on the internet to find them, perhaps that is not a person you shold be placing any level of trust in...

    Also, it is never okay to meetup with someone especially if you go by yourself. Congratulations in advance for convincing many sad 15 year old girls that as long as they don't meet up at apartments, it's okay for them to meet up with anyone they meet online. You sound like an awesome friend.

  • I think there were a lot of good tips in there. I personally would not meet up with someone in person that I met over the internet. I've heard too many horror stories.. even when a girl meets the guy in a public place and he earns her trust, 3 months later when she goes over his house she gets raped. Plus I prefer meeting people in real life. For me xanga is a place to get honest opinions from others who don't know me and aren't afraid to criticize, also a place to vent when the people in my real life get on my nerves, and a place to remember things I never want to forget. My brother however met the girl he married 3 months ago on myspace. They dated for a year and then got married. Just not my style I guess.

  • Very insightful! Veeeeryyy niiiice (haha -Borat!) Thanks for this.

    Cheers [=

  • This is a really really great post! I agree that it is often difficult finding that balance between reading someones most personal thoughts that they may not reveal in real life and actually being in that real life...
    Real life has a way of being a magnifying glass, you know? Of course it's easy for guys to be sweet and nice via the comforts of the interwebs, but will they hold a door open for their ladies, will they remember what their girls drink at the coffee shop?
    I'm hoping to meet a guy like that!

    @Kontzicles - LOL I KNOW! Once in a fit of desperation I posted what I thought to be a short, sweet "ad" on craigslist, and got like 200 responses, most of them FILTHY! Ugh, never again!

    @spokenfor - I agree, I had the same the same problem with this guy once. We never dated, but I was for sure I knew him. Turns out he was SO MUCH different when I finally did meet him. He was even 12 years older than he said he was! silly me...

  • And what if my life's secrets are alreday divulged for the world to read on here?

  • Very good advice.  I wish I had read this a few years ago...some of us learn the hard way ;)

    RECS.

    M

  • lol. not bad.

    i think people who have nothing better to do in real life would think about all that. we meet and find some really cool nice people online. but its simply not practical.

    making friends over the internet simply shows our lack of social life.

  • yes, yes, yes.  a million times.

    wise words for all of us.  thank you.

    j.

  • Just out of curiosity, did you write this intending for opposite sex relationships or just friendships in general? 

  • @The44thHour - A bit of both, thus the inconsistency.

  • @GreekPhysique - ah, that makes sense. 

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