April 10, 2009
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How to Treat a Man 101 (response post)
My good Xanga friend Spoke wrote a post on "How to Treat a Lady 101" in January. I promised her a potential response post, and have been plotting my revenge, err, crafting my response since then. I admit that this post maybe should be titled "How to Treat Me 101", but I'll pretend to speak for mankind for now.
Ladies, I know too often you get fixated on how we should treat you, and I admit men often fail their women. But have you considered how you should be treating us as the gods princes stallions men we are? Out of the goodness and humility (I'm humble...and PROUD of it!) of my heart, I've decided to put together a few tips:
1. Don’t mistake our silence or poker face for a lack of emotion. Sometimes our emotions lag. Men sometimes don’t realize how much something means to us or how much we’re hurt until time has passed. So please, don’t expect us to match you emotional change for emotional change. Don’t call us robots or heartless monsters. We cry too at times, but we do it privately.
2. Sometimes we say things to try them out. This really should be no surprise to women, but for some reason women tend to take us way too seriously. Sometimes boys are just boys and say ridiculous things just to get a reaction. Other times, we say things like “I love you” casually before the emotion is truly there. Ask us to explain or repeat ourselves before reacting to the first thing we say as gospel.
3. Don’t condone our sexuality. Don’t let guys get away with shameless behavior or words just because “Well, all guys are horny.” We may be, but you don’t have to put up with hourly updates confirming that status! See #2—if you let guys think it’s ok, it’s only going to get worse. When women let guys lead in this area, they give away a valuable source of power.
4. There’s a right way and a wrong way to be “one of the guys.” We love it when girls show interest in traditional guy activities—grilling, playing/watching sports, etc. However, don’t fake it or try to “out-guy” the guys. For example, it’s a big turn-off to me when a girl tries to swear just as much as the guys, or endlessly brags that she can burp or drink or you name it just as well as the guys. Keep your own identity as a woman while hanging out with guys, and you’ll have the best of both worlds.
5. “He’s Not that into You”…but he’s lazy, horny, or wants to be absolutely sure. If you show a lot of interest in a guy, he’ll play along even though he might not be interested. So make sure you can identify if he’s not. Have him do something hard, tell him there’ll be no sex anytime soon, or force him to commit. Guys do like a good challenge, if it’s set up right. Don’t think that you’ll drive him away, if he’s truly interested! Now, remember #1 and #2; guys may take a little while to understand how they feel about you, and we may claim we’re not interested because we want to check if we really are.
6. Laugh. Men love it when a woman laughs. I wish I could do some sort of study on proving that women who laugh and smile more get more dates and are more popular. But please, don’t fake it; we don’t like feeling patronized.
7. Don't mock our hobbies. So we play fantasy football, collect weird things, have video game parties, or enjoy seeing who can burp the loudest. Ok, the last one definitely is mockable, but otherwise, take it easy on our hobbies. Do we mock you for your 1-foot tall stack of gossip magazines?
8. We like facts and numbers. If you want to speak "guy", use some numbers and facts to do so. For example: "I need this project by noon, and it must have at least 10 pages"; don't just hint to us that "I would like this soon." Soon? What's that? Give us consequences, give us details and rewards; don't expect us to always pick up on vocal tone or little signs. We aren't all fluent in "girl" language.
9. No texting/twittering/small talk. All right, this is where I may differ from some guys. If a guy hates to talk at all, then yes, you may only be able to squeeze some texts or tweets from him at first. But for the most part--guys only do those things because girls like to use texting or twittering, in my opinion. I dislike small conversations that go nowhere.
10. Being given entertainment or gifts is a privilege, not a right. To me, the quickest turn-off is when a girl I've recently met insinuates that I should entertain her, or that it is my duty to pay for a meal or something else. I am fairly generous, but I want to feel like I'm giving the person a gift, not an obligation. I'm not here to entertain you; turn on the TV if you want to see a comedian. You have to bring something to the table too; don't just sit and watch me hoping that I'll make things interesting. That's so irritating.
Ok, Part 2 later this weekend, or in 15 minutes, or never, ha, depending on when I get the chance.
Comments (29)
Good advice!
amen. i wholeheartedly agree! awesome post!
But Greek... didn't you fall into the Twitter trap? That aside nice list anyway. I look forward to Part 2.
@Ro_ad808 - And...I went there because some cute girls were using Twitter :-p See?!
haha. Nice points.
You mean guys aren't heartless monsters??? (i thought they just liked Princess Bride as a cover up... lol). But in all seriousness a very well written post.
yeah, i dislike hobby-dissing and small talk. esp. small talk with ANYONE.
i can't say i've played along with a woman being interested in me when i wasn't interested. hm.
Nice points!
I learned all this by observation really.
Nice list!
More please! #6 reminds me of hubby. He loves my snorting laugh. He knows it's from the heart and makes him laugh at the same time.
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!
Greek, write a book.
or I'm stealing this whole thing and getting the credit.
I forgot my mini for you.. haha... also. I think you should grow your hair out like this....
#6 is untrue. i wish it weren't but it is. i laugh a lot and smile like a hyena anyway. i don't do it to get dates. cuz it doesn't get me dates. haha. maybe other girls...pouty chicks seems to always be coupled though. hrm.
#9 seems to be the opposite of the guys i've met recently and i think it could be an age thing. i used to despise texting, but all my male friends in the last 3 yrs would basically only communicate via text. with everyone, not just me. my ex was a prime example. i sent 2,000 texts the month after i met him because we kept a constant daily convo going via text (not my MO, it was his)...for some reason that makes me very uneasy, and I've tried to figure out what about texting (as much as i love it now) irks me. it maintains intimacy and closeness without the face to face and there is something "off" about that. that's something i should dissect via blog post though. i am not disagreeing with you, because i myself prefer deep communication ...i'm just saying my experience with under age 27 yr old guys has been quite the opposite.
#1 is very true and has played out in my life quite a bit, and i've learned patience and not pushing when it comes to that area. women want to say men are "slow", but it's not that. it's the intrinsic difference between men and women, and women cannot expect men to process things the same way they do. or they'd be women.
@spokenfor - That's what bothers me about guys who like texting as well. I get a creepy feeling they like it because they don't have to put as much of their real selves in it, somehow. Sorry to guys who like texting and aren't creeps, ha, it's just some of you give it a bad name.
Also, I thought of you when I typed #6
sorry that it isn't always appreciated by others.
OMG ... a "relationship" post I actually agree with! *faints*
man shoot, i could have used this information about 3 months ago...damn timing again
(gods, princes, stallions...lol
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That's a pretty solid list, and fairly accurate for most guys too. But like you implied, not all guys are the same, so there will be exceptions or deviations from time to time.
Good post.
Other times, we say things like “I love you” casually before the emotion is truly there.
Bad, bad idea! That's a good way to scare a girl away! I know, because I was once that girl.
I love this list...and I think it's very helpful. My boyfriend loves that I can be "one of the guys." He likes that his girlfriend will play Madden 09 and NBA Live with him and his friends...and is actually good at it (his words not mine). I actually enjoy doing it too...as well as watching and playing football.
There are plenty of other great points in this post...that one just stuck in my mind the most...
How do you do that with the links????????????
I think this is a great post. The only one I've found to be shaky is #9. I find that the men in my life text me to death. I'm the one who usually has to just put down the phone and walk away for a while. Sometimes it can be sweet but other times it drives me a bit crazy.
thank you
you're awful kind.
"Don’t condone our sexuality.
Don’t
let guys get away with shameless behavior or words just because “Well,
all guys are horny.” We may be, but you don’t have to put up with
hourly updates confirming that status! See #2—if you let guys think
it’s ok, it’s only going to get worse. When women let guys lead in this
area, they give away a valuable source of power."
if there's one thing i've learned in high school its that! women have *so* much power that we give away, from allowing a guy to have what he wants physically, to wearing that low cut shirt.
Love always
lol hilarious and helpful
I laugh and smile constantly. One guy actually said one of the reasons he liked me was that every time he looked at me, I was smiling.
Aaaaaaaaand that guy was my only official date in 23 years. So... yeah.
Maybe it's because I swear almost as much as I smile...
@eowynnabeeowyn - Oh dear, yes, don't do that, swearing is a turn-off. Guys want to think their girl is sweet, at least in public. And you do have a nice smile
don't worry about the dates, you're an attractive woman.
@AnamcharaConcepts - HA! yes, a distinctive laugh is not necessarily a disadvantage. Men do want their women to be happy when they are with them.
@Kontzicles - LOL ok, I'll work on my man-fro. I don't know if I still have the follicles to pull it off, though!
@RaVnR - You have high standards, so I'm honored to read your approval!
@Peridot21 - haha thanks for noticing that.
@yourkbear - I know! But it usually takes me a little while to figure out what I really feel, and so some weird things come out first, ha
@echois23 - I find this annoying after a while--it's not "real", if you will. I do enjoy a good AIM chat, but after a while, it's just not real enough. Much better to hear a real person's voice.
@brutalnotfutile - YES!!! See, if a woman tries to tame the men in her life and make sure they are less offensive, it can often be done! You don't have to do what a man says. You can say "No, I won't talk to you if you talk to me that way" and then make it stick. Women give away way too much of their power, and this saddens me.
@GreekPhysique - I agree I like to hear a voice...
@GreekPhysique - I can't help it! I even tried giving up swearing for Lent, in addition to my usual sacrifice of sugar... Haven't had so much as a taste of chocolate in over a month, but the swears just pour out of me from a subconcious level whenever I'm behind the wheel... lol. And thanks for the compliment, assuming you don't think I'm actually Miranda Otto.
@eowynnabeeowyn - LOL no, I went into your pictures to make sure I could say that with a clear conscience.
I finally found one clear photo (out of 35 pages!) to confirm it. You should post more pictures of yourself, ha, so I don't have to look so hard for one!
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