December 22, 2011

  • What Makes a Man Immodest?

    There are still many debates about what makes a woman immodest. Even by mentioning the existence of said debates, I may have triggered (you guessed it) more debates! But I wanted to talk about the other gender today and ask you: "What do you think makes a man immodest?"

    Over the last 3 decades, we men have seen more and more marketing material telling us that we should be confident, bold, and aggressive. We're told that today's America men are soft, lazy, and losing our women to sleek European imports. (Or was that the car market? The rhetoric gets confused at times.) Regardless, pickup artists, business consultants, and men's magazine writers alike tell us that we have to put ourselves up there and upgrade our wardrobe. (By the way, why does "wardrobe" sound so randomly aggressive, anyway?).

    But I ask you, valued member of society--what makes a man immodest? Has our culture of bragging about accomplishments and telling everyone how we feel gone too far? Are the men in your life going over the line? Am I immodest if I wish to recreate this photo with my delicately coiffed chest hair?

Comments (18)

  • I try not to brag too much, but sometimes just telling about my awesome life is enough to make me feel guilty of bragging. 

  • The phrase "delicately coiffed chest hair" made me utterly incapable of anything but laughter for several minutes.  Thank you for that.

  • have men ever been modest?

    none of the stories of 'men' (i recall) bring forth the idea of a modest person. as no contemporary story about a man makes me think 'gentleman'. most of out heros are brutish Hercules or schmucks.
    so the answer i suspect is "man is inherently immodest".

    anything short of sporting a top hat and cane is quite ungentlemanly. so, i wouldn't worry about it. think of it this way, most people who use the word chivalrous have not read the defining tomes on chivalry... so what is the point of thinking their attacks are valuable, when they aren't communicating what they believe?

  • I think this makes a man immodest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0&hd=1

  • @lenybobsyouruncle - French romanticism heroes

    Juan Pablo Castel in Sabatos's Tunnel

    Kafka's characters inmersed in repetitive cycles and succumbing to self pity.

    Hesse characters were kind'a modest some times but not most of times

    Werther (btw you should totally read that one)

    ummm you know I can go on and on just to piss you off more than my Merry Christmas wish did ^-^

  • Women are only immodest based on how they dress or move their body.  Men get to be immodest only when they brag.  Go figure out how much sense that makes.  

  • I honestly don't give a shit if by old-fashioned standards, I'm "weak", "soft" or anything of that sort. 

  • @TiredSoVeryTired - Interesting observation.  Men supposedly are more visual and women are more verbal and relational.  Thus, for women who allegedly dress and move provocatively, can we conclude that they must be being immodest in their pursuit of the visual men?  Similarly, when men brag they are verbally positioning themselves, so is it the case that they must be being immodest by their flagrant, unnatural attempts to make themselves appear more attractive to women?

  • @AnyasFriendMe - Ah, that's interesting!  I think you're on to something there.  It's immodest to do things to overtly attract the opposite sex apparently.  

  • Wearing those saggy gang-banger pants way immodest. (what is it with the wardrobe?)

  • 1) PLEASE reenact that photo for a laugh

    2) "It ain't bragging if you've done it" - Will Rodgers

  • I think it's good to have confidence and be assertive, but I do hate when men mimic Vin Diesel's attitude in "xXx."

  • I'll attempt to recreate the photo if you do it first

    Meh, when I think modesty today I always think about women's clothing. Always.Regardless, whether it means he's more 'modest' or not, a man is always most attractive with a little mystery to him. 

  • Funny story, do you want to hear, mmm ok - here it is, you ready, mmmmkk - I swear you will laugh - promise - okie read on
    I tried talking to you earlier... but then my ADHD kicked in and I got distracted and didnot see your reponse and then I clicked into the chat box and *poof* you were gone...ok that is the end of part one

    part two, starts, ok, hang, wait for it wait for it, ok start now
    Part two:
     so no talking... we should talk, I am talking right now, but you are not here to talk... so I am doing all the talking, story of me life, for realzzz... seriously... seriously.... oh no I am stuck on repeat, someone stop me, seriously, serioulsy...

    oh gosh, I need sleep

    okay, Im bored, enjoy reading this, I thought it was funny

    bye

  • that only gave me 2 credits, really? I like wrote a book! hahaha, ok bye

  • @Ill_flyawaywithyou - It was a beautiful book! I read it cover to cover, ha. Sorry for the mixup. Sleep well.

  • There is a fine line between being immodest and charismatic... People who lack that certain smoothness and charm just come off lame and cocky...

    There is nothing wrong with having a few nice things here and there. However boasting often about how much money you make, where you shop, how much of an intellectual you are is pretty immodest.

    There is nothing wrong with having fun while being a little flashy once in a blue moon to enjoy your self and friends. When you do it everyday and that is a part of your regular persona it's just so off putting and in my eyes does not show anything of what a true elitist is...

    True modesty does mean meek and ill equipped.  If anything boasting often shows a lack of confidence and seems they are always just reaching and trying to cover for the lack of something in there lives...

    This goes for anyone though both men and woman.

    <3 MommyMarty22

    (btw sorry for the ramble.)

  • baha another spell check way back when i commented on that... :( Doesn't mean meek and ill equipped!  >>shakes head<< 

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